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Old 05-10-10, 04:13 AM   #16
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You could add some to the campaign using the SH4 mission editor. However, I've tried to make missions in the past involving enemy subs and they've not been very successful.

As far as I remember, the stock game doesn't really let you do any damage to subs, I recall firing at a sen toku sub and watching it just bounce around in the water, taking no damage. Similar experiences using a u-boat against fleet boats.

This was some time ago, so that may have changed, but I think that's the situation at least in stock.

I have seen a mod in the downloads section which makes the sen toku destroyable, but haven't yet been able to try it.
Subs have to be converted to ships in order for them to even move. Once you do that then you can use them in missions. They are in some of the mods.

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Old 05-10-10, 05:32 AM   #17
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I believe they are included in campaign and some missions (though they are VERY rare.. you need to go out into the Indian ocean to find one) in TMO and or RSRDC for 1.4
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Old 05-10-10, 07:39 AM   #18
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Subs have to be converted to ships in order for them to even move. Once you do that then you can use them in missions. They are in some of the mods.

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Ah, that would explain things! Thanks for the info
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Old 05-10-10, 09:49 AM   #19
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enemy subs are in RSRDC. It even has single missions featuring sub v sub:




the problem is that they only act as surface ships, namely, they do not submerge or fire torpedoes.

SH5 has actual enemy subs that will fire torps at you and submerge.
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Old 05-10-10, 10:12 AM   #20
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the problem is that they only act as surface ships, namely, they do not submerge or fire torpedoes.

SH5 has actual enemy subs that will fire torps at you and submerge.

Do you think it is possible to convert the SH5 sub AI to SH4?

I would imagine it isn't, but you never know!
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Old 05-10-10, 02:56 PM   #21
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Just an add on to the other comments. Since the AI subs are converted to ships, they will fire the deck gun at you if you are surfaced. And they are much more maneuverable than the big ships so they evade torpedoes easier. (unless the values have been Modded.)

We do have a submerged sub in the Japanese Campaign (if I can ever get it done) but it has a problem, the game thinks it is on the surface so DDs fire guns at it not DCs.

My old memory is not working so good. But someone was working on a sub quite a while ago that would submerge and fire torps, but I never heard anymore about it. So I don't remember if it was ever finished, or if it was in a Super MOD.

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Old 05-10-10, 03:14 PM   #22
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Just FYI:

My store bought (Fry's) copy of SH4 Gold did not come with a CD Key and I've never been prompted for one.
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Old 05-10-10, 04:54 PM   #23
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Nope neither did mine........but the digital download of the 1.5 patch which I bought from UBisofts own store did !
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Old 05-15-10, 06:07 PM   #24
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As per forum rules, i think we should all get banned. I mean we are doing something worst than pirates. We are flat out sinking any enemy ship we come across. At least pirates sometimes left the crew to leave on a life raft and took the ship.

And than someone just mentions a hint about "real" piracy and it's bye bye.

OK, sorry. Sarcasm off

Enemy subs... hmmm... where are you hiding little one?
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Old 05-15-10, 09:49 PM   #25
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As per forum rules, i think we should all get banned. I mean we are doing something worst than pirates. We are flat out sinking any enemy ship we come across. At least pirates sometimes left the crew to leave on a life raft and took the ship.

And than someone just mentions a hint about "real" piracy and it's bye bye.

OK, sorry. Sarcasm off

Enemy subs... hmmm... where are you hiding little one?
Well, I don't know about you, but I didn't see him go bye,bye. Just explaining the situation so he won't go bye, bye.

Ok, sarcasm back on.

Now let me think where would a sub hide.....hmmmm....looked in all the trees.....looked up in the sky.......hmmmmm.....that's a tough one.

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Old 05-15-10, 10:42 PM   #26
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hahaha

Ok but i think you missed some rocks...
I bet it's under there somewhere.
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Old 05-16-10, 02:36 AM   #27
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Just an add on to the other comments. Since the AI subs are converted to ships, they will fire the deck gun at you if you are surfaced. And they are much more maneuverable than the big ships so they evade torpedoes easier. (unless the values have been Modded.)

We do have a submerged sub in the Japanese Campaign (if I can ever get it done) but it has a problem, the game thinks it is on the surface so DDs fire guns at it not DCs.

My old memory is not working so good. But someone was working on a sub quite a while ago that would submerge and fire torps, but I never heard anymore about it. So I don't remember if it was ever finished, or if it was in a Super MOD.

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Old 05-17-10, 02:37 AM   #28
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Now let me think where would a sub hide.....hmmmm....looked in all the trees.....looked up in the sky.......hmmmmm.....that's a tough one.
Did you check in the couch?
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Old 05-23-10, 03:14 PM   #29
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Old 05-23-10, 06:10 PM   #30
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Actually, in SH1 enemy subs worked like they should. I was in a Narwhal class once and got torpedoed by a Jap sub while I was on the surface!
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