Legality of torture

[Dowly]

I wished I'd see a video of US soldier being waterboarded or beaten. I'd quess that'd change the replies in this thread.

IMHO, westernt world has gone to far to call themselves the good guys anymore. We have sunk to their level. Not good.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I wished I'd see a video of US soldier being waterboarded or beaten. I'd quess that'd change the replies in this thread.

IMHO, westernt world has gone to far to call themselves the good guys anymore. We have sunk to their level. Not good.

Saw everything i needed to see when they were cutting the heads off of innocent civilians.

No... we havent sunk to their level... not until we start capturing random citizens and start beheading them for shock value.

I have nothing good to say about any of these _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [I value my membership too much to type it so use your imagination]

[Happy Times]

I want to add that there are no methods shown in Finland that would lead to permanent physical harm.

Im sure amost anything is considered torture nowdays by some but i dont think essentially scaring people qualifys.

I also remember when we were briefed about Russian methods, used in Chechnya for exsample.
Everyone agreed that they would rather finish themselves or ask others to help if wounded.

If you see your friends skinned alive you might start talking, better not to put yourself in that position, so no surrender for me.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

No... we havent sunk to their level... not until we start capturing random citizens and start beheading them for shock value.

If you start measuring the methods of your torture by using what terrorists do and don't do as a yardstick, you've lost sight of the basic fact that 1) using terrorists as your moral compass is ridiculous and 2) torture is wrong and we as a country are better than that.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

torture is wrong and we as a country are better than that.

Speak for yourself... I say grab a sledge hammer, a setaline torch and go to work.

I have neatly coiled piles of dog sh*t on my lawn worth more than these Islamic extremists entire families.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Speak for yourself... I say grab a sledge hammer, a setaline torch and go to work.

I have neatly coiled piles of dog sh*t on my lawn worth more than these Islamic extremists entire families.

Are you going to do that yourself or just command someone else do that for you?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Are you going to do that yourself or just command someone else do that for you?

I can think of a couple of those guys specifically i would love to beat the crap out of.

Some of us are closer to this situation than others OTH.

its easy i guess to keep a distance from the situation for some folks... im very glad for such people.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I can think of a couple of those guys specifically i would love to beat the crap out of.

Some of us are closer to this situation than others OTH.

its easy i guess to keep a distance from the situation for some folks... im very glad for such people.

Yes and some are more guilty of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continuing and continuing. Doesn't stop non-guilty countries having their arms twisted into sending guys there to get wounded and killed.