Legality of torture

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

torture is wrong and we as a country are better than that.

Speak for yourself... I say grab a sledge hammer, a setaline torch and go to work.

I have neatly coiled piles of dog sh*t on my lawn worth more than these Islamic extremists entire families.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Speak for yourself... I say grab a sledge hammer, a setaline torch and go to work.

I have neatly coiled piles of dog sh*t on my lawn worth more than these Islamic extremists entire families.

Are you going to do that yourself or just command someone else do that for you?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Are you going to do that yourself or just command someone else do that for you?

I can think of a couple of those guys specifically i would love to beat the crap out of.

Some of us are closer to this situation than others OTH.

its easy i guess to keep a distance from the situation for some folks... im very glad for such people.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I can think of a couple of those guys specifically i would love to beat the crap out of.

Some of us are closer to this situation than others OTH.

its easy i guess to keep a distance from the situation for some folks... im very glad for such people.

Yes and some are more guilty of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continuing and continuing. Doesn't stop non-guilty countries having their arms twisted into sending guys there to get wounded and killed.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Yes and some are more guilty of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continuing and continuing. Doesn't stop non-guilty countries having their arms twisted into sending guys there to get wounded and killed.

They are low intensity conflicts against terrorists, not actual wars.
In a war, thousands die in weeks not years and declarations of war are exchanged between countries.

Still, those that have fought and even died to protect us are all heroes that i respect and hope will be remembered by history.

If we leave those countries the terrorists are going to get more bases to operate freely from, Iraqi goverment might be up for the job but the Afgan goverment will fall without support.
Thats the logic behind this policy.

I dont really care are about making Middle East democratic, i will settle for them to keep their loonies from attacking the West.

But i agree that even this limited policy will probably not work because Islam as an ideology is like a cancer.
Afganistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen...the list goes on.

Untill we will go in to a real war they will only grow in power.
Either we will move from surgery to chemotherapy or let the cancer take us.