Obama rips pending Arizona immigrant law ! (politics)

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its the Unabomber again

Well that dident take long.

Honestly cant you find some new tactics other than name calling?

[Ishmael]

This law effectively mandates that police can stop ANYBODY to determine their citizenship status at any time. If you can't PROVE your citizenship, you can be arrested. So my question is this.

What if the Pima or White Mountain Apache Tribal Police were to start stopping every white person they saw and make them prove THEIR citizenship status?

Both reservations are in Arizona. The governor already said the law would not be an excuse for racial profiling, so targeting only brown-skinned people is illegal.

If I were a member of the Tribal Police, I'd probably do it just for fun. When the people I stopped got Irate and belligerent, my answer would be,

"We've been Americans for 11,000 years. When did YOU Wetbacks show up?"

Well that dident take long.

True, it didn't take long to see why this new move to control illegal immigration in Arizona was a pile of crap.

Honestly cant you find some new tactics other than name calling?

Its makes the point doesn't it.
Its pretty evident that the majority of the time when someone uses Caps Lock to emphasise their point it ends up that their point is bollox.

Since Theo was famous for using Caps Lock when he was just ranting nonsense its quite appropriate.

Though then again, given the legal complications of the new State legislation (which isn't actually legal yet) and the old state legislation and problems trying to mix and match them with Federal legislation so that the laws and the enforcements of the laws are legal not illegal even though illegal is illegal and legal is legal and legal can be illegal then maybe ivank was doing a really clever joke and laughing at the legislators down Arizona way and paying a backhanded compliment to Obama as he was an idiot calling this legislation "misguided", he should have called it "stupidity" instead.

[SteamWake]

So a law to control illegal activity is a pile of crap?

Wow.. I'm going back to bed. I woke up in an alternate universe.

Not to worry though your man is on the case !

http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/20...na-action.html

So a law to control illegal activity is a pile of crap?

Writing a law that cannot really work legally is a waste of paper.
Trying to enforce a law that cannot really work legally is a waste of taxpayers money when they have to pay up for all the inevitable lawsuits.

Wow.. I'm going back to bed. I woke up in an alternate universe.

You just havn't thought about the issue in hand which is why you can't understand it
In fact it could be said that you are just having a knee jerk reaction to what is really a knee jerk piece of legislation.

Not to worry though your man is on the case !

He's your man steamwake , like it or not.
As for him being on the case??????
errr........Nice link , did you even read the link you started the topic with? Or was that just a knee jerk reaction you had while skimming headlines?

[SteamWake]

Yea pretty sure that article is related.

Anyhow the time has come to quit arguing.

[baggygreen]

Question.

Why is it not okay to build a fence to keep the illegals out of the US, not to mention the drug runners, but it is also not ok to take steps to remove the illegal immigrants from your country?

Frankly, to me as an outsider to your situation, the fact that there are 600,000 illegals in one state alone is terrifying. Since when has it become such a bad thing for people to want to keep their state or country secure, and to control who comes into the country or state and when?

We face the same issues here, in that the illegal immigrants keep arriving by boat from indonesia and malaysia. Some people don't recognise that the boat people are not true refugees. With the average cost of a boat fare around $10,000 per person, how can they be seen as a genuine, desperate refugee by anyone?

We take a large number of legitimate refugees from UN-run camps in a quota endorsed by the UN. What people don't realise is that these economic migrants arriving by boat are taking up a spot from someone who is busy languishing in a camp.

A quiet (not silent) majority want our borders secure and to decide who comes to Oz, but we're being shouted down by the minority - just for a change.

So why is it so wrong to want to control your borders?

[AVGWarhawk]

Yes sir, everyone hates the new law but it is all good to have guns and drugs running into the country. Folks being killed over it and more people on the rolls for free goodies. It's all good because well, these illegals have rights....at least their protest signs say that...no wait, protesting legally under the law but being illegal all the same. Gosh life is good......

Why is it not okay to build a fence to keep the illegals out of the US

Surely the question is..... Do fences work?

but it is also not ok to take steps to remove the illegal immigrants from your country?

The problem with the legislation in question is that it isn't going to work, is going to cost a fortune and infringes heavily on the rights of US citizens.

With the average cost of a boat fare around $10,000 per person, how can they be seen as a genuine, desperate refugee by anyone?

How much did it cost to get smuggled out of Nazi Germany?

[SteamWake]

One thing I dont get.. if I understand it correctly Arizona is simply adopting the federal law on a state level seeing as the Fed's do not enforce their law. Now Arizona may enforce the law on a state level and try to do something about the conditions there finally.

So why all the fuss?