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Old 04-14-10, 03:12 PM   #9
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I'd like to add that while I am absolutely in favor of criminalizing the hiring of illegals, deporting illegals here now as they are discovered, and even locking down the border by any means necessary, I'd be totally fine with grossly increasing the number of immigrants let in legally.

If 1 million a year sneak in, let 800,000 in legally—or more, doesn't matter to me. I don't care that they come, I welcome them. What POs me is that they don't follow the rules and come in legally, jumping through all required hoops and paperwork. Arturo is welcome to come and work hard, but I don't want another Mr. Atta, please.

After a bunch of travel in the 3d world over the years, I long ago came up with my own, personal definition of "civilization."

Civilization exists in societies that spontaneously form lines.

If you stand in lines and don't frequently hear, "I'm sorry, were you ahead of me?" or "No, she was in front of me, take care of her first, thank you." you're someplace uncivilized.

Sneaking in is like cutting a line.
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