US Wins British Tank Order

Jimbuna · 03-25-10, 07:14 AM

Granted, BAE didn't do themselves any favours but here's further evidence of the British government turning its back on its own industry:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...r-1925499.html

03-25-10, 07:27 AM

Couldn't BAE have thrown in a few bribes to secure the contract, or have they been caught doing that too often.

danlisa · 03-25-10, 07:28 AM

Shame this is leaving British shores.

However, on the bright side, if the Yanks build them, they are less likely to want to blow them up on the battlefield.

Jimbuna · 03-25-10, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Shame this is leaving British shores.

However, on the bright side, if the Yanks build them, they are less likely to want to blow them up on the battlefield.

LMAO

Oberon · 03-25-10, 08:08 AM

And BAe was just getting its act together too. Times like these the government should be encouraging local growth, no offense to our American colleagues.

03-25-10, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

And BAe was just getting its act together too. Times like these the government should be encouraging local growth, no offense to our American colleagues.

100% right on the money.

AVGWarhawk · 03-25-10, 09:04 AM

Interesting find Jim.

We will be sure to send you are very finest work!

August · 03-25-10, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

And BAe was just getting its act together too. Times like these the government should be encouraging local growth, no offense to our American colleagues.

None taken. We tend to feel the same way.

Jimbuna · 03-25-10, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by August

None taken. We tend to feel the same way.

Oh I fully understand and agree

We may not have heard the end of this yet...

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But the Conservatives branded the move precipitous. The shadow Defence Secretary, Liam Fox, said: "It is quite wrong for the Government to sign multibillion-pound contracts, unless they are urgent operational requirements for Afghanistan, just weeks before a general election and ahead of a strategic defence review which all parties are committed to."

AVGWarhawk · 03-25-10, 10:01 AM

BAE is in deep with your submarine programs. (no pun intended). Sometimes the contracts do not always go to the lowest bidder. At least that is how it can be handled here in the government when contracts are offered for bidding.

Jimbuna · 03-25-10, 10:06 AM

True but the timing is pretty insensitive with unemployment rising and a general election that is likely to unseat Labour due in a couple of months.

This will be perceived as a slap in the face for so many Labour party faithful, especially in the north of England where there support mainly comes from.

Captain Nemo · 03-25-10, 10:16 AM

I think spending £2bn on tanks when the country is in debt is ludicrous anyway no matter where the contract is placed. It also has to be remembered that the Government is bound by rules governing procurement of goods and services especially for contracts worth this amount of money and sometimes it is not always possible to place the contract where you would like to politically.

Nemo

AVGWarhawk · 03-25-10, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

I think spending £2bn on tanks when the country is in debt is ludicrous anyway no matter where the contract is placed. It also has to be remembered that the Government is bound by rules governing procurement of goods and services especially for contracts worth this amount of money and sometimes it is not always possible to place the contract where you would like to politically.

Nemo

Protecting ones country knows no economic bounds....just look at the US!

Catfish · 03-25-10, 11:31 AM

" ... I think spending £2bn on tanks when the country is in debt is ludicrous anyway no matter where the contract is placed ..."

Maybe a lend-and-lease contract ? They used this before, and England can pay it back when it has won the .. ahem.

Greetings,
Catfish

03-25-10, 12:06 PM

Cash & Carry sounds so much better.

03-25-10, 07:14 AM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	US Wins British Tank Order Granted, BAE didn't do themselves any favours but here's further evidence of the British government turning its back on its own industry: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...r-1925499.html __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-25-10, 07:28 AM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Shame this is leaving British shores. However, on the bright side, if the Yanks build them, they are less likely to want to blow them up on the battlefield. __________________

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Interesting find Jim. We will be sure to send you are very finest work! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-25-10, 10:01 AM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	BAE is in deep with your submarine programs. (no pun intended). Sometimes the contracts do not always go to the lowest bidder. At least that is how it can be handled here in the government when contracts are offered for bidding. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-25-10, 10:06 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	True but the timing is pretty insensitive with unemployment rising and a general election that is likely to unseat Labour due in a couple of months. This will be perceived as a slap in the face for so many Labour party faithful, especially in the north of England where there support mainly comes from. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-25-10, 07:27 AM	#2
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Couldn't BAE have thrown in a few bribes to secure the contract, or have they been caught doing that too often.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	And BAe was just getting its act together too. Times like these the government should be encouraging local growth, no offense to our American colleagues.

03-25-10, 10:16 AM	#12
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I think spending £2bn on tanks when the country is in debt is ludicrous anyway no matter where the contract is placed. It also has to be remembered that the Government is bound by rules governing procurement of goods and services especially for contracts worth this amount of money and sometimes it is not always possible to place the contract where you would like to politically. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

03-25-10, 11:31 AM	#14
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	" ... I think spending £2bn on tanks when the country is in debt is ludicrous anyway no matter where the contract is placed ..." Maybe a lend-and-lease contract ? They used this before, and England can pay it back when it has won the .. ahem. Greetings, Catfish

03-25-10, 12:06 PM	#15
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Cash & Carry sounds so much better.