Idea: secret, hidden forward operating bases for refueling and repairs

TH0R · 03-23-10, 06:54 AM

A very interesting idea. What is historical background behind this?

Drifter · 03-23-10, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

A very interesting idea. What is historical background behind this?

I don't really have any specific historical information for these types of operations. I don't even know if they happened. I was just trying to think of a go-between fix for the player inability to call for help if out of fuel or severely damaged. Maybe someone here has some historical info.

Armistead · 03-23-10, 10:26 AM

I'm sure some would like it, I doubt I would. You could make it just a refit so only minor repairs. What would be nice if like history there we're a few instances of subs taking fuel from other subs. If you could keep the torps out and limit fuel it may work , just don't think you can.

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 10:38 AM

British and Australian coastwatchers spied on enemy ship movements and radioed them in. There were no secret bases. How would they even get drums of diesel fuel? That would require that some surface supply ship move deep into enemy waters to make the deliveries. It just didn't happen.

Not saying you shouldn't do it. It sounds like fun. Just saying don't imagine it's historical.

danurve · 03-23-10, 10:51 AM

What about - what about a rendezvou with another AI US submarine and a transfer of fuel & a few fish instead of a base? That could simulate a milk-cow.

CCIP · 03-23-10, 11:56 AM

I don't think US boats were equipped to remove/take on torpedoes at sea. They didn't have any external storage, unlike U-boats, and I don't believe they were equipped to extract torpedoes from the hull, except by firing them.

danurve · 03-23-10, 12:25 PM

I see your point.
But was a US sub able to take on fuel at sea? Alot of times I have the fish to extend a patrol but lack the fuel. And I'm by no means waisting it, or at least trying to be fuel consious.

Rockin Robbins · 03-24-10, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

I don't think US boats were equipped to remove/take on torpedoes at sea. They didn't have any external storage, unlike U-boats, and I don't believe they were equipped to extract torpedoes from the hull, except by firing them.

There was one instance where a crazy (my opinion) captain pulled up in a nice little cove in Japanese waters, surfaced, took a couple of stern torpedoes on deck, floated them around to the bow and reloaded them there. Scared the crew to death. I bet he was called a few choice names.

Wonder what Admiral Lockwood said to him?

As for getting a tow, if you are in Japanese waters with no US ships anywhere near, you may get a tow but you won't like where you're going!

03-23-10, 06:54 AM	#1
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	A very interesting idea. What is historical background behind this? __________________ *My IL2 stuff:* LEVEL BOMBING MANUAL v2.0 \| 'MUSTANG'

03-23-10, 10:38 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	British and Australian coastwatchers spied on enemy ship movements and radioed them in. There were no secret bases. How would they even get drums of diesel fuel? That would require that some surface supply ship move deep into enemy waters to make the deliveries. It just didn't happen. Not saying you shouldn't do it. It sounds like fun. Just saying don't imagine it's historical. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-23-10, 10:51 AM	#5
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Alternate Idea What about - what about a rendezvou with another AI US submarine and a transfer of fuel & a few fish instead of a base? That could simulate a milk-cow. __________________

03-23-10, 11:56 AM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I don't think US boats were equipped to remove/take on torpedoes at sea. They didn't have any external storage, unlike U-boats, and I don't believe they were equipped to extract torpedoes from the hull, except by firing them. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-23-10, 12:25 PM	#7
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	I see your point. But was a US sub able to take on fuel at sea? Alot of times I have the fish to extend a patrol but lack the fuel. And I'm by no means waisting it, or at least trying to be fuel consious. __________________

03-23-10, 10:26 AM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I'm sure some would like it, I doubt I would. You could make it just a refit so only minor repairs. What would be nice if like history there we're a few instances of subs taking fuel from other subs. If you could keep the torps out and limit fuel it may work , just don't think you can.