SUBSIM: Silent Hunter 5 review (17/03/10) - Page 4

Coldcall · 03-17-10, 10:40 AM

I agree, very fair review, and I'm really pleased he has suggested people wait a few weeks before buying it to make sure Ubisoft support it with patches.

Nice one!

PS. My Uk retail copy had a very minimal manual about 15 pages in size.

Ablemaster · 03-17-10, 10:41 AM

Yeh that about sums it up Neal, agreed on most things said, good and bad points highlighted and seems to be what we are all saying and thinking about SH5, so concur on that, good and informative, thanks.

Faamecanic · 03-17-10, 10:47 AM

Good review Neil.... but you left a few things out (that Im sure others have already pointed out)

Morale system is broke. My crew's morale was at 1 dot the minute I left Keil Harbor on my first patrol.
TDC is broke. If you use any ability that increases your torp speed or warhead effectivness, the TDC does not take this into account and your torps MISS their targets.
Rudder control is 1 deg at a time or 35 deg with automtic Amazing/ludicrous/Insane/Holy S*&t speed (what ever ubi named it) ahead.
Rediculous mission requirements (sink 150,000 tons by June 1940...really? in 8 months?)
Germany had Sonar in 1939?
Germnay had Radar in 1939?
American Liberty Cargo ships in 1939?
Only half the war is available to play.

Dont get me wrong... I think the review is spot on. There is so much promise with this SH release. But at the same time this is the most incomplete release to date. As if Ubi fully expects modders to finish the sim for them.

to Ubi and

to the review.

Faamecanic · 03-17-10, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The General

The reoccuring problem with DRM you mention is so rare as to be a non-issue. The problems inherent with the game are of much greater importance and Neal has wisely chosen to focus upon them.

O-rly?

And the fact that I could not play the game I bought for the last two weekends is not a problem??

Had no problem playing my MMOs though....so its not my internet connection.

janh · 03-17-10, 11:03 AM

Good job, I enjoyed the reading. And fairly unemotional, too. I wouldn't even say it was too long, on the contrary: SHV does have a quite a bit of content, even if it may be less than SHIII has, so only a long review can do that justice.

I only hope both Ubisoft and Ubisoft Romania pick up on all the comments made in the review and on subsim and start bringing back all the stuff missing from SHIII. And that they do at least announce a strategy with the OSP. Future will tell whether at least this time they can see that sales numbers are at least as much governed by quality and service as they can be screwed by piracy.

Noren · 03-17-10, 11:03 AM

That must be the worlds longest review!

Nice one, a bit to high a score for my liking but that is a matter of taste.

03-17-10, 11:32 AM

An excellent read. I found it very informative. You did not take cheap shots while still expressing your concerns. Well done.

subsimlee · 03-17-10, 11:41 AM

I particularly agree with your final assessment..........don't buy it until it's fixed . ( I returned my copy for a full refund and will re-buy it when and if...)

Weather-guesser · 03-17-10, 11:47 AM

Pretty much what I expected from Neal. Fair and honest review

Turbografx · 03-17-10, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams

A fair and just review... In my opinion a little generous on the score. I would have given it 65%.

But with the right patches and mods, has the potential to be 90+. So lets hope the surport from Ubisoft and Modders is good.

Thanks for the review.

Agreed, too generous with the score. 60% is about right. 18/20 for "Realism" is pretty laughable.

BH · 03-17-10, 12:06 PM

Good review.

Letum · 03-17-10, 12:08 PM

A well written review.
Generous, perhaps, but that is to be expected and it wasn't unfair.

Than manual was news to me.

ed: I am very surprised it got a better rating than AOTD!

Safe-Keeper · 03-17-10, 12:30 PM

I have a feeling it got a rating for potential as much as actual gameplay. There's a lot of realism in SH5 if you just look beyond the arcade/RPG features, and silliness like manning the deck gun during a hurricane can be patched/modded out. He did balance his high score by pretty much saying you shouldn't buy the game until it's modded/patched.

gmccabe01 · 03-17-10, 12:33 PM

A nice accurate review and told it like it is.
Well done

jimimadrid · 03-17-10, 12:54 PM

Well writen review Neal.

I noticed also that the actually weather is not saved. If you load at the same point you get every time different weather.
Strange.

Or with the words of the tecnical support, this is not a failure - this is a feature.

03-17-10, 10:41 AM	#47
Ablemaster An able master Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 274 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 5	Yeh that about sums it up Neal, agreed on most things said, good and bad points highlighted and seems to be what we are all saying and thinking about SH5, so concur on that, good and informative, thanks. __________________

03-17-10, 10:47 AM	#48
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Good review Neil.... but you left a few things out (that Im sure others have already pointed out) Morale system is broke. My crew's morale was at 1 dot the minute I left Keil Harbor on my first patrol. TDC is broke. If you use any ability that increases your torp speed or warhead effectivness, the TDC does not take this into account and your torps MISS their targets. Rudder control is 1 deg at a time or 35 deg with automtic Amazing/ludicrous/Insane/Holy S*&t speed (what ever ubi named it) ahead. Rediculous mission requirements (sink 150,000 tons by June 1940...really? in 8 months?) Germany had Sonar in 1939? Germnay had Radar in 1939? American Liberty Cargo ships in 1939? Only half the war is available to play. Dont get me wrong... I think the review is spot on. There is so much promise with this SH release. But at the same time this is the most incomplete release to date. As if Ubi fully expects modders to finish the sim for them. to Ubi and to the review.

03-17-10, 11:03 AM	#50
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good job, I enjoyed the reading. And fairly unemotional, too. I wouldn't even say it was too long, on the contrary: SHV does have a quite a bit of content, even if it may be less than SHIII has, so only a long review can do that justice. I only hope both Ubisoft and Ubisoft Romania pick up on all the comments made in the review and on subsim and start bringing back all the stuff missing from SHIII. And that they do at least announce a strategy with the OSP. Future will tell whether at least this time they can see that sales numbers are at least as much governed by quality and service as they can be screwed by piracy. __________________ Scientific facts are not determined by the opinion of the majority, nor by a democratic vote.

03-17-10, 11:47 AM	#54
Weather-guesser Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, New York USA Posts: 260 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Pretty much what I expected from Neal. Fair and honest review __________________ NAVY! It's not just a job. It's a Buck Seventy-Five an hour!

03-17-10, 12:08 PM	#57
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	A well written review. Generous, perhaps, but that is to be expected and it wasn't unfair. Than manual was news to me. ed: I am very surprised it got a better rating than AOTD! __________________ Last edited by Letum; 03-17-10 at 12:22 PM.

03-17-10, 10:40 AM	#46
Coldcall Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 325 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	I agree, very fair review, and I'm really pleased he has suggested people wait a few weeks before buying it to make sure Ubisoft support it with patches. Nice one! PS. My Uk retail copy had a very minimal manual about 15 pages in size.

03-17-10, 11:03 AM	#51
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	That must be the worlds longest review! Nice one, a bit to high a score for my liking but that is a matter of taste.

03-17-10, 11:32 AM	#52
Jotte Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	An excellent read. I found it very informative. You did not take cheap shots while still expressing your concerns. Well done.

03-17-10, 11:41 AM	#53
subsimlee Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I particularly agree with your final assessment..........don't buy it until it's fixed . ( I returned my copy for a full refund and will re-buy it when and if...)

03-17-10, 12:06 PM	#56
BH Loader Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 89 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Good review.

03-17-10, 12:30 PM	#58
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I have a feeling it got a rating for potential as much as actual gameplay. There's a lot of realism in SH5 if you just look beyond the arcade/RPG features, and silliness like manning the deck gun during a hurricane can be patched/modded out. He did balance his high score by pretty much saying you shouldn't buy the game until it's modded/patched. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-17-10, 12:33 PM	#59
gmccabe01 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cobh in Ireland Posts: 42 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	A nice accurate review and told it like it is. Well done

03-17-10, 12:54 PM	#60
jimimadrid Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Augsburg, Germany Posts: 385 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 19	Well writen review Neal. I noticed also that the actually weather is not saved. If you load at the same point you get every time different weather. Strange. Or with the words of the tecnical support, this is not a failure - this is a feature. __________________ SH4 Menumaker . JTxE Textenabler . Gramophone SongRandomizer . SH_Keymapper