SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 5
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-17-10, 10:40 AM   #46
Coldcall
Chief
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 325
Downloads: 42
Uploads: 0
Default

I agree, very fair review, and I'm really pleased he has suggested people wait a few weeks before buying it to make sure Ubisoft support it with patches.

Nice one!

PS. My Uk retail copy had a very minimal manual about 15 pages in size.
Coldcall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 10:41 AM   #47
Ablemaster
An able master
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: England
Posts: 274
Downloads: 121
Uploads: 5
Default

Yeh that about sums it up Neal, agreed on most things said, good and bad points highlighted and seems to be what we are all saying and thinking about SH5, so concur on that, good and informative, thanks.
__________________
Ablemaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 10:47 AM   #48
Faamecanic
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Off your Stb side with good solution
Posts: 1,065
Downloads: 44
Uploads: 0
Default

Good review Neil.... but you left a few things out (that Im sure others have already pointed out)
  1. Morale system is broke. My crew's morale was at 1 dot the minute I left Keil Harbor on my first patrol.
  2. TDC is broke. If you use any ability that increases your torp speed or warhead effectivness, the TDC does not take this into account and your torps MISS their targets.
  3. Rudder control is 1 deg at a time or 35 deg with automtic Amazing/ludicrous/Insane/Holy S*&t speed (what ever ubi named it) ahead.
  4. Rediculous mission requirements (sink 150,000 tons by June 1940...really? in 8 months?)
  5. Germany had Sonar in 1939?
  6. Germnay had Radar in 1939?
  7. American Liberty Cargo ships in 1939?
  8. Only half the war is available to play.
Dont get me wrong... I think the review is spot on. There is so much promise with this SH release. But at the same time this is the most incomplete release to date. As if Ubi fully expects modders to finish the sim for them. to Ubi and to the review.
Faamecanic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 10:51 AM   #49
Faamecanic
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Off your Stb side with good solution
Posts: 1,065
Downloads: 44
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The General View Post
The reoccuring problem with DRM you mention is so rare as to be a non-issue. The problems inherent with the game are of much greater importance and Neal has wisely chosen to focus upon them.
O-rly?

And the fact that I could not play the game I bought for the last two weekends is not a problem??

Had no problem playing my MMOs though....so its not my internet connection.
Faamecanic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:03 AM   #50
janh
Stinking drunk in Trinidad
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 349
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Good job, I enjoyed the reading. And fairly unemotional, too. I wouldn't even say it was too long, on the contrary: SHV does have a quite a bit of content, even if it may be less than SHIII has, so only a long review can do that justice.

I only hope both Ubisoft and Ubisoft Romania pick up on all the comments made in the review and on subsim and start bringing back all the stuff missing from SHIII. And that they do at least announce a strategy with the OSP. Future will tell whether at least this time they can see that sales numbers are at least as much governed by quality and service as they can be screwed by piracy.
__________________
Scientific facts are not determined by the opinion of the majority, nor by a democratic vote.
janh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:03 AM   #51
Noren
中国水兵
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 284
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

That must be the worlds longest review!

Nice one, a bit to high a score for my liking but that is a matter of taste.
Noren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:32 AM   #52
Jotte
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

An excellent read. I found it very informative. You did not take cheap shots while still expressing your concerns. Well done.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:41 AM   #53
subsimlee
Mate
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 55
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

I particularly agree with your final assessment..........don't buy it until it's fixed . ( I returned my copy for a full refund and will re-buy it when and if...)
subsimlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:47 AM   #54
Weather-guesser
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Albany, New York USA
Posts: 260
Downloads: 72
Uploads: 0
Default

Pretty much what I expected from Neal. Fair and honest review
__________________

NAVY! It's not just a job. It's a Buck Seventy-Five an hour!
Weather-guesser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 11:58 AM   #55
Turbografx
Old Stormalong
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Gret Stet of Loosiana
Posts: 232
Downloads: 104
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwilliams View Post
A fair and just review... In my opinion a little generous on the score. I would have given it 65%.

But with the right patches and mods, has the potential to be 90+. So lets hope the surport from Ubisoft and Modders is good.

Thanks for the review.

Agreed, too generous with the score. 60% is about right. 18/20 for "Realism" is pretty laughable.
Turbografx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 12:06 PM   #56
BH
Loader
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 89
Downloads: 34
Uploads: 0
Default

Good review.
BH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 12:08 PM   #57
Letum
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: York - UK
Posts: 6,079
Downloads: 43
Uploads: 0
Default

A well written review.
Generous, perhaps, but that is to be expected and it wasn't unfair.

Than manual was news to me.

ed: I am very surprised it got a better rating than AOTD!
__________________

Last edited by Letum; 03-17-10 at 12:22 PM.
Letum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 12:30 PM   #58
Safe-Keeper
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 3,234
Downloads: 11
Uploads: 0
Default

I have a feeling it got a rating for potential as much as actual gameplay. There's a lot of realism in SH5 if you just look beyond the arcade/RPG features, and silliness like manning the deck gun during a hurricane can be patched/modded out. He did balance his high score by pretty much saying you shouldn't buy the game until it's modded/patched.
Safe-Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 12:33 PM   #59
gmccabe01
Seaman
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cobh in Ireland
Posts: 42
Downloads: 207
Uploads: 0
Default

A nice accurate review and told it like it is.
Well done
gmccabe01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-10, 12:54 PM   #60
jimimadrid
Sonar Guy
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Augsburg, Germany
Posts: 385
Downloads: 115
Uploads: 19


Default

Well writen review Neal.

I noticed also that the actually weather is not saved. If you load at the same point you get every time different weather.
Strange.

Or with the words of the tecnical support, this is not a failure - this is a feature.
jimimadrid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.