Does moving the crew forward help in a dive?

maillemaker · 03-14-10, 05:00 PM

It seems that flooding realistically affects the trim of the boat.

I'm wondering if moving the crew into the forward compartments also affects trim to make dives faster?

Steve

vergol · 03-14-10, 05:07 PM

I doubt it. I think the dive times are static values for each sub.

Trim is also a non-existent concept in SH3.

Would be cool though...

Sailor Steve · 03-14-10, 05:11 PM

Not to mention the fact that moving them one-by-one takes longer than it does to reach 70 meters.

RConch · 03-15-10, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not to mention the fact that moving them one-by-one takes longer than it does to reach 70 meters.

After poking the crew in the chest a hundred times per mission, you get kind of attached to the little buggers.

maillemaker · 03-15-10, 09:53 AM

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Not to mention the fact that moving them one-by-one takes longer than it does to reach 70 meters.

Ah, but you don't have to do that.

As I recently discovered, if you left click one compartment, and then right-click another compartment, it will take all the people from the second compartment and fill it with people from the first.

This makes it easy to move everyone into the bow compartments.

Like I said, FLOODING definitely affects the trim of the boat. I've seen my sub down by the bow or stern plenty of times due to flooding. That's why I wondered if moving people had any effect.

Steve

Grim Nigel · 03-15-10, 11:07 AM

Well, people are 80% water anyway, would be cool to mod each man as a "Small ammount of static flooding" if it was possible.

Sailor Steve · 03-15-10, 11:08 AM

I don't think it has any effect in the game. I'm also not sure how much effect it had in real life, since the flooding tanks at bow and stern held several tons of water that could be pumped back and forth rather quickly.

sharkbit · 03-15-10, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I don't think it has any effect in the game. I'm also not sure how much effect it had in real life, since the flooding tanks at bow and stern held several tons of water that could be pumped back and forth rather quickly.

Part of the "Das Boot" mystique perhaps?

I've never heard mentioned elsewhere until last night. I'm reading "U-boats in the Mediterranean" by Larence Patterson. He has mentioned a couple of times when they moved guys up front to help trim the boat after firing torpedoes to prevent broaching, but hasn't mentioned anything about it happening during a crash dive. Same thing applies though-the boats had compensating tanks used during torpedo firing to help prevent that.

maillemaker · 03-15-10, 02:30 PM

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I don't think it has any effect in the game. I'm also not sure how much effect it had in real life, since the flooding tanks at bow and stern held several tons of water that could be pumped back and forth rather quickly.

In "Iron Coffins", Werner mentions on his first cruise when his uboat was sabataged and stuck stern-first in the mud, the crew moved to the bow to bring it down.

Then when the keel was stuck in the mud, the crew ran back and forth in the boat, end-to-end, after blowing ballast, to un-stick the boat from the mud.

Steve

Flopper · 03-15-10, 02:41 PM

I tested this out in a type 7. No difference if crew was aft or forward.

Jimbuna · 03-15-10, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by maillemaker

It seems that flooding realistically affects the trim of the boat.

I'm wondering if moving the crew into the forward compartments also affects trim to make dives faster?

Steve

MOST DEFINITELY NOT

vergol · 03-15-10, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Nigel

Well, people are 80% water anyway, would be cool to mod each man as a "Small ammount of static flooding" if it was possible.

Shake the boat a few times with some serious depth-charging, and those bodily fluids will turn into compartment flooding for sure.

03-14-10, 05:00 PM	#1
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Does moving the crew forward help in a dive? It seems that flooding realistically affects the trim of the boat. I'm wondering if moving the crew into the forward compartments also affects trim to make dives faster? Steve

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Not to mention the fact that moving them one-by-one takes longer than it does to reach 70 meters. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-15-10, 11:07 AM	#6
Grim Nigel Sailor man Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 46 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Well, people are 80% water anyway, would be cool to mod each man as a "Small ammount of static flooding" if it was possible. __________________ Formerly of U-13, 1st Flot. Back in the days of the WPL and SH2. Current career : OberLeutnant z. S. Werner Faust of U-707 (Type VIIC) 13th Flot. St. Nazaire. U-707 Patrol Logs at http://grimnigel.blogspot.com/

03-15-10, 11:08 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't think it has any effect in the game. I'm also not sure how much effect it had in real life, since the flooding tanks at bow and stern held several tons of water that could be pumped back and forth rather quickly. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	I tested this out in a type 7. No difference if crew was aft or forward. __________________

03-14-10, 05:07 PM	#2
vergol Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 121 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I doubt it. I think the dive times are static values for each sub. Trim is also a non-existent concept in SH3. Would be cool though...