Again a Western country bends over

Don't waste your time Tribesman.

A racist in Germany is like a grain of sand in Sahara.

Don't waste your time Tribesman.
A racist in Germany is like a grain of sand in Sahara.

Considering that Sky consistantly rants about peoples religions and you consistantly rant about peoples nationalities how different are you?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Considering that Sky consistantly rants about peoples religions and you consistantly rant about peoples nationalities how different are you?

Well I'm not a catholic, that's for sure. Reading all these pedophile news from Germany makes me really relieved that I'm not one.

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

A racist in Germany is like a grain of sand in Sahara.

I bet there is no racism at all in Finland. Everybody over there just loves the Roma people and the Sámi are socially and politically integrated.

To be honest, comments like yours seem rather dumb to me. Sorry for saying that.
If you live in a country which has a history like mine, and you see how far the society has come in terms of political correctness, fight against racism, fight againt neo-nazism and such, comments like yours are hurting and arrogant.
As if germany was the only country in the World which has black spots in it's history.

Skybird is just one of thousands, if not Millions of Anti-Muslim people around the world. He just happens to be german.

Being "Anti-Muslim" seems to be en vogue since 9/11. As if every Muslim in every country in the World is automatically a terrorist.

If terrorism aims at instilling fear and mistrust of my very neighbour and the destruction of civil and/or human rights - then it seems the terrorist were successful.

Because since 9/11, there are many, many people who fear that the Kebap Hut of ol' smiling Achmed would suddenly explode or that the Bus Driver in Dullsville would suddenly yell "Alllaaaaah!" and drive right into a pig pen.

[Skybird]

JackAubrey,

I am not anti-Islam because of 9/11. I am against Islam because of it's content, because of it's claims and supremacism, because it is what it is.

But I certainly call everybody a dangerous fool who sings together with the with the choire that old refrain: "9/11 has had nothing to do with religion, Islam means peace".

Terror of this kind we could adapt to, we could get used to, we could elarn to live with it and to fight against it - if only part of our decadence wouldn'T be the loss of our willingness to fight and resist. But in general, terrorism is the smallest of my concerns as long as we do not speak nuclear proliferation. My quarrel with Islam is due to it's demand, it's ideology, it's message, and the massive spread of this barbaric and totalitarian, injust and inhumane ideology in Europe.

In the end, Islam sees itself as a culture-pendant to the term "Herrenrasse". It sees itself as the world's "Herrenkultur", the natural goal of man's evolution, and demands all other cultures to be submitted and destroyed, and all history deleted and rewritten.

That - and nothing else - is the reason why I am against Islam.

[Safe-Keeper]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8558764.stm

OK, so a US official goes against US policy and has to apologize because his statement runs the risk of damaging the work the actual diplomats are doing.

I don't quite see how this is an example of a country "bending over" to a massive global Islamic conspiracy?

Originally Posted by JackAubrey

I bet there is no racism at all in Finland. Everybody over there just loves the Roma people and the Sámi are socially and politically integrated.

I'd say that the Roma have it better in Finland then in many other nations, including Germany.

The Sami don't yet have their own nation, that might require not just Finnish Sami but also Swedish, Norwegian and Russian Sami to form their own common nation. But the Finnish Sami do have an almost autonomic status and are guaranteed to things such as being tought their own language etc. But really, please tell if you know of cases of racism against the Sami in Finland, being part-Sami myself I'm kind of interested to hear it.

Of course not to mention the fact that all Finns are forced to speak Finnish-Swedish, our official second language, Jehova's witnesses are exempt from the military service as are people from the Åland. So I'd say that the minority situation is pretty good, it could be better in many ways and there is some cases where minorities especially the Swedish speaking minorities actually have things better then the Finnish speaking population.

As for the 'anti-islam'-crowd, ever since the end or world war 2 and even before that the racists can't really focus on race anymore, it's kind of not in vogue anymore. Instead modern racism focuses on ethnic and cultural purity etc., things that don't necessarily ring the racism-bell that quick. The same bunch also tries to deny the Holocaust from having taken place because they try to paint nazis and racism etc. in a more positive light.

I am not anti-Islam because of 9/11.

Yeah Skybird isn't "anti islam"

. I am against Islam because of it's content, because of it's claims and supremacism, because it is what it is.

Yes skybird believes in the bat****crazy version of fundamentalist gob****e interpretations and likes all views to coirrespond with his bat**** crazy version

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

But really, please tell if you know of cases of racism against the Sami in Finland, being part-Sami myself I'm kind of interested to hear it.

And I would be interested to hear why you think that germany consists of racists. Or why they are as numerous as grains of sand in the Sahara. Normally, I try to take such comments in a polite and somewhat easy way but your comment sounded so condescending and hurting.

If somebody wrote "Drunk Man in Finland abused little girl" and I commented this with "Finding a drunk pedophile in Finland is like finding water in the Atlantic" then I would probably be the crazy german full of dumb stereotypes.
If someone else insults german people, then it's ok, because, you know, they did that Holocaust thing to the Jews 65 years ago and they are all the same racist nazis now that they were then.

But maybe I missed something about this Forum and it's perfectly Ok to insult ones nationality or country around here.

Jack Aubrey,

Well I'm not a nationalist myself, are you? I think nation states are an outdated concept that need to be replaced with units that are able to actually do something about the various problems and challenges such as natural resources, pollution, epidemics, poverty, etc. that threaten the entire planet. So you can say negative things about Finland, I won't mind. Although as I've warned previously, Dowly and Happy Times and other Finns here in Subsim Radio Room might take offence.

I don't quite see how this is an example of a country "bending over" to a massive global Islamic conspiracy?

Thats a simple mistake you have made, you are approaching the subject from the wrong direction.
Try bending over as far as you can and then shoving your head up the nearest orifice on your body
Then your view should be clear enough to reach the same conclusions as Skybird and the multitude that share his views
Though strangely Sky tries to distance himself from those who share his views, as they are obviously nuttier than a sack of almonds.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Jack Aubrey,

Well I'm not a nationalist myself, are you? I think nation states are an outdated concept that need to be replaced with units that are able to actually do something about the various problems and challenges such as natural resources, pollution, epidemics, poverty, etc. that threaten the entire planet. So you can say negative things about Finland, I won't mind. Although as I've warned previously, Dowly and Happy Times and other Finns here in Subsim Radio Room might take offence.

Acourding to your logic, The Nazi's and in fact WWII were good things because 60 million people died.... Follow me on this, The greatest threat to Man and the earth is overpopulation of man.

"natural resources, pollution, epidemics, poverty, etc. that threaten the entire planet."

All man made issues! so lets get rid of nation states hug a tree or two and exterminate a couple billion people. Then and maybe then your socialist utopia can exist eh Comrade? As for the rest of us Racist, border loving nation states people well just wait for our next big war to come and fulfill the dream.

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Acourding to your logic, The Nazi's and in fact WWII were good things because 60 million people died.... Follow me on this, The greatest threat to Man and the earth is overpopulation of man.

"natural resources, pollution, epidemics, poverty, etc. that threaten the entire planet."

All man made issues! so lets get rid of nation states hug a tree or two and exterminate a couple billion people. Then and maybe then your socialist utopia can exist eh Comrade? As for the rest of us Racist, border loving nation states people well just wait for our next big war to come and fulfill the dream.

I think you are just projecting your own thoughts. I don't think we need to 'cull' the population in order to solve the big problems facing humanity. However a higher degree of co-operation is needed.

Btw, I find it funny for some reason when Americans talk in favour of nation states.

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

So you can say negative things about Finland, I won't mind. Although as I've warned previously, Dowly and Happy Times and other Finns here in Subsim Radio Room might take offence.

That's my point. You may say all the negative things you want about my country or me being german, because if you say that germany consists of racist people like sand in the sahara, you're basically saying that I am racist because germans are racist.
But if I say negative things about Finland, then Finns take offense?
So Finns may take offense while germans are not allowed to?

Originally Posted by JackAubrey

That's my point. You may say all the negative things you want about my country or me being german, because if you say that germany consists of racist people like sand in the sahara, you're basically saying that I am racist because germans are racist.
But if I say negative things about Finland, then Finns take offense?
So Finns may take offense while germans are not allowed to?

No, I said I don't take offence. I can't talk for other people though, just like you can't talk for other Germans.

So you're a nationalist and take offence when people criticise your nation?