Again a Western country bends over
 

Disgusting. Even more digusting that doing so is probably celebrated by some politicians as diplomatic "reasonability".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8558764.stm

Holy cow, they really mean that serious. I know it is just another one in a long row of examples of slimey submission of cowardly, spineless weaklings begging to get slapped, kicked, spit and nailed, but every once in a while it still makes my overpressure valves opening up, since I need to take note of such acts of fawining subservience by European and American officials almost every day when skimming the headlines.

Nauseating. It reminds me of wives getting beaten up by their husbands and nevertheless insisting that it is their own fault and the man being a good guy in principle who doesn't mean it, and courts ruling the victim of rape is guilty because it "provoked" the attackers, so the victim must be additionally punished. Both is pathologic, both is expression of fear and weakness, and a seriously distorted understanding of "justice".

It's already hard to bear for a man of honour if he needs to live in times when evil is ruling.

But it is even worse to bear if he needs to live in times where the difference between evil and good is no longer wanted to be known.

Or in short: Business as usual.;)

So the problem here is that someone took a bit of nonsense and reacted to it as though it was important.

Since the last topic started with "is anyone supposed to take this seriously?" and the only possible answer was no(unless you wanted to rant about global muslim conspiracies) then this topic is just the result of a silly politician taking nonsense to heart and having to apologise for over reacting to the rantings of a lunatic.

It reminds me of someone getting really upset about someone who was claiming they often beat their wife then finding that the person never had a wife in the first place and couldn't manage to beat an egg even with assistance.

There is a very simple cure for that affliction Skybird suffers from.

Yes, he should throw a brick through a kebab shop window, then sit cross-legged and wait for the Bundies to haul him off and put him away with all the other self-pitiers. I don't get it - served a bad donner? Sister went out with a Turk?

Jeeesus, from his posts you'd think that it was impossible to conduct conversation in Europe above the muezzins giving the prayer call through loudspeakers. Only other hypothesis is that it's a pre-emptive tactic to detract attention from all the misplaced anti-American rhetoric he posts.

No really its true, there is a secret EU law that says you cannot have a conversation above prayer calls.

I agree with Skybird on this one. I mean its Khadafi who is a nut. Would Reagan have apologized?

Should the U.S. have made the statement? No

But having done so apologizing just seems like groveling.

I think we should bomb them just cause America woke up in a bad mood today.

One thing is fact. Its proven that, that is the only thing Libya respects.

Thats strange, I could have sworn that the bombing of Libya just led to more terrorism and more complicated efforts at diplomacy
The fact is the only thing Libya respects is business deals.

Hear hear! Why should any country bend over and kiss the arses of those psychos? I don't mean to come off as anti-Islam or what have you by saying this, but people in those countries were dancing and cheering in the streets after the Towers fell! How should I feel about that as an American? How should I feel about irrational bomb-rigged extremists seeking to slaughter every Westerner that crosses them? Joyful? Apologetic? Hell No.

A line was drawn and it is being held in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I think every one of those extremist dogs should be hunted down and bombed out of existence. We can deal with the diplomatic mop up after our victory party.

I feel pretty strongly about that. Back to lurking. :oops:

Errrrrr...because countries want to do business and if they don't get to do the business then the Chinese snap it all up.

Reagan? Bugger Reagan. He didn't know whether it was New Year or New York. I remember the slick old mallard. Apparently when talking with foreign officials he would lapse into anecdotes that confused his early movie roles with real life. You could have blown notes over the holes in his brain.

The reasons for conciliation with Libya are well described, apart from the fact they their rapprochement since 11/9 is sincere, not to mention unprecedented. Gaddafi is to be encouraged, not scolded.

Krashcart - you can feel however you like. In light of your comments though, I would only add that during the Cold War myself - living next to the biggest nuclear bullseye in Western Europe - had absolutely no objection to Czechoslovakia being wiped out along with the rest of the Warsaw Pact, despite the fact that they - along with Poland - were mostly unwilling allies of the Soviets. Ta for the insight.

I am sure that terrorism as a whole got little from Libya in the 80's when we bombed Khadafi.

No I am sure it was more to do with Cough Cough Isreal and Western politics towards Cough Cough Isreal.

Osama Bin Laden brought his Terrorism to U.S. soil for the the crime of U.S. boots being on the holy soil of Saudi Arabia during the first gulf war.

???

Just one more example of the current administration's intent to not offend anybody, unless it be somoene like the UK (over the Falklands) or Israel (over the 1800 homes in East Jeruselem)..... Staunch friends its ok to offend - but people who have called for and been party to attacks on innocents people, ours or others, we must do all we can to keep them from being offended....

Cohaagen - its because of Reagan that the spot you were describing isn't still a target - know why - because the cold war is over - thanks to that anecdote quoting, jelly bean eating president. So your welcome - even though your likely not couth enough to say thank you....

Gadaffi.

Lockerbie. Murder in 270 cases. Official apology refused until today.

Supports Hamas until today.

Members of his family behave like shyt when visiting other countries, there are allegations of attempted gang rape and severe physical violence.

Hijacking and helding hostage of innocent Swissmen and calls for open jihad against europe, because the Swiss were impertinent enough to arrest his son after acts of the above description.

Calls for demographic conquest of Europe: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe - without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades. "

Held Bulgarian doctors and nurses a long time as hostages, to blackmail Bulgaria for the paying of money after the collapsing Lybian health system was responsible for the infection of 400 children with HIV. The prisoners were terrorised, were electrotortured, two of the nurses later reported to have been raped repeatedly, and all lived under the terror of being threatend with death, and that their families would be killed by terror commandos. Needless to say that the Bulgarians were completely innocent in the "intentional infection" of children with HIV.

Supports Tuareg groups, and Muslim militias that are involved in the slaughtering of Christian villagers in Niger.


That's what comes to my mind just at first thoguht aboiut the man. I know there is much more.

Yes, we really should apologise to this murderous dog. France, in its determination to replace the lost Napoleonian empire with turning Europe into Eurabia which in it's blinded arrogance hopes to dominate then (an old longterm political strategy formulated by de Gaulle), kneels before him, delivered modern ATGMs, helicotpers, and signed a deal for the delivery of a French nuclear reactor.for civilian use only, of course.

Of course.

I do not buy into this constant hacking at the French over their claimed cowardice or weakness, that is nonsense. But the damage they do to Europe is what makes me despising France more and more. that france gets eaten up from within by the ghost it has called, is no comfort, since all other nations will follow it's fate with just a short delay - Britain and France are in the lead in this process, but they won't stay alone.

Hmm so where did the IRA get most of its weapons from in the 80s?