[REL] Improved waves_improved roll&pitch (anti-subs on rails) V 1.1 - Page 2

stoianm · 02-11-11, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venus

Hey Stoiamn,

Can you fix the link please? File Not Found.

I'd love to see freak waves too... also would love
to see more rolling, and some way to control the
listing of the boat (shifting ballast maybe). My boat
has a permament list of 2-3 deg port.

However, there is one huge thing missing, and
that is a Wet Look to the boat... all that water
washing over a permadry boat just doesn't look
right... how about fading reflectivity or something like
that? ie fading if it's dry for x time.

Sory but i do not understand what link are you talking about

NeonsStyle · 02-11-11, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoianm

Sory but i do not understand what link are you talking about

The Link to the mod... but I don't think now it's a
problem with the Link, but a problem with the host
site, since I'm having the same problem with other
files on filefront. Hmmm don't know what's causing it,
it just comes up n says "FILE UNAVAILABLE ERROR"

Wierd

Hmmmm same thing happens in Internet Explorer... normally use Mozilla. wtf???
I've had no problems downloading from there before... last 2 days, havn't
been able to get a thing. very strange...

tonschk · 11-03-11, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venus

However, there is one huge thing missing, and
that is a Wet Look to the boat... all that water
washing over a permadry boat just doesn't look
right... how about fading reflectivity or something like
that? ie fading if it's dry for x time.

May be this Mod can help

KZSHULLWETNESSFORU-BOATSV1.1

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...R+U-BOATS+V1.1

NeonsStyle · 05-12-13, 11:34 PM

File not found error. Could you please repost the link to
the file please?

volodya61 · 05-13-13, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venus

File not found error. Could you please repost the link to
the file please?

three posts earlier..

Ark · 03-13-10, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

GREAT job

I just cant believe the modders in the community can fix something just days after release. Why didnt the devs look at how the sub rode in the waves and say "Humm that looks stupid.." then take 5 min to fix it? Just like SH3 and especially SH4....it takes this community to fix the stuff that should have already been fixed.

Because developmet teams operate under time constraints. They don't get to spend as much time as they want focusing on the details.

walsh2509 · 03-13-10, 08:17 PM

Great work , Q? on water/sea/ocean in games .. do you think we will see the water breaking the tops of waves ? The look of it in SH5 is great and the movement with the mod even better , but in games it looks like water is held under a flim and rolls very well , but you never get the white tops of water rolling or waves rolling over .. or wind whipping the top of the water ..

Faamecanic · 03-21-10, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ark

Because developmet teams operate under time constraints. They don't get to spend as much time as they want focusing on the details.

I agree...and feel if the devs were given triple the budget and 3 years dev time they would blow our socks off... and as always its a case of devs dreams vs. Ubistanks terrible business policy to push crap out the door. So I do not 100% blame the devs.

BUT...with that said.... this has been an issue since SH 3. On SH 4 it got rediculous (sub on rails) to the point of blowing any realism/immersion when over half your sub was sticking out of a wave 15 ft in the air. It seems they tweaked it a small bit with SH5.

But the devs have had years to work on this...and modders have fixed it for every release of the sH series to the point were not only does the sub NOT ride on rails, but also has a good bit of pitch and roll.

In my mind the devs should have contacted the modders and asked "you did this better, can we use your mod in the next release". I think most modders here, that give thier time freely to improve a product we all love, and asking nothing in return would have agreed

Pumbator · 03-23-10, 02:08 PM

Argh... This is just too much for me, I'm getting too nervous.
This game seems to lack gravity where there should be more, and there is too much gravity where it shouldn't be!

What I started with was modyfing subs mass and displacement to historical values (as goblin editor says, both values are 'tonnes'). But then the sub is acting like a tank, both pitch and roll does not exist. So I had both mass and displacement set to half of the historical value. There was a shadow of effect. I changed the gravity center to 0.4 (I found materials regarding XXI type u-boat compartment masses, and counted about where it had its mass center). It gave a small effect too. With LR drag for surfaced boat set to 0.9 the boat does give a fair amount of roll... BUT only when turning. When going straight - it gives a slight roll but it has too big frequency.

Pitch... First I set the surfaced draught parameter to 5.0 to get the sub a little deeper in the water... With that I was satisfied, till I saw what happens on heavy sea... Disaster, that's what it is. Changing the seaparameters.cfg gives a little effect too. Crappy look, when the wave passes the boat and it still goes perfectly straight.

I'm just tired with this for today. There must be another way to get this right, I wanna see my u-boat rocking on the heavy seas.

One thing though I am happy with... When you change the gravity center to something about 0.4, when you blow your ballast for emergency surface, the boat nicely jumps out of the water. It looks quite like in The Hunt For The Red October (of course it's far from the angle they got when surfacing, but for a moment you can see the diveplanes)

I hope someone deals with this soon, I'll definately try, but I doubt I'll succeed.

EDIT: what BumpScaleU and BumpScaleV stands for? For me changing this values gave weird effects...

Decoman · 03-23-10, 02:34 PM

Exactly how is the game making the uboat flow with the ocean surface? Does anyone know or have a qualified opinion?

I imagine that the uboat would be best off by being elevated up and down with the height of a wave, but also dampened by the scale of the wave so that the uboat doesn't elevate to the crest of the waves. So by the time the crest has reached its peak height, the uboat would still be moving sluggishly upwards.

Hm, maybe modified by the actual wave height as well. So that smaller waves doesn't make the uboat jump up and down with the numerous small crests of the waves in a rather calm ocean.

I don't know I thought this made sense.

Truckerich · 04-23-10, 12:50 PM

I don"t get it. I have SH3-good, SH4, ok. But this SH5 lol. Half my keys don't
work. I put generic mod enabler in the [ ubisoft game launcher directory ] and a directory called mods. Nothing. Iv'e tryed 2 dozen different mods, nothing.
I hand walked a few mods one called dials.dds to it's proper dir [gui] i think, nothing!!. no dials no under keel key [u]. Don't know why my SM20 mod mission isn't working. I put were the other SM's is located. huh!! And i Don't now were I go to play those missions. If it's the Historic missions I dont see it.
I want to load the Artic Campain same issue. SCREAM!!!!!!!!! I don't get it.
Please any and all sugestions sure would be appreaciated. Besides all that I think the SH5 is great. THANK YOU, RICH.

WHEN are we gona the see this new v.2 update?
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03-23-10, 02:08 PM	#9
Pumbator Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gdańsk, Poland Posts: 15 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Argh... This is just too much for me, I'm getting too nervous. This game seems to lack gravity where there should be more, and there is too much gravity where it shouldn't be! What I started with was modyfing subs mass and displacement to historical values (as goblin editor says, both values are 'tonnes'). But then the sub is acting like a tank, both pitch and roll does not exist. So I had both mass and displacement set to half of the historical value. There was a shadow of effect. I changed the gravity center to 0.4 (I found materials regarding XXI type u-boat compartment masses, and counted about where it had its mass center). It gave a small effect too. With LR drag for surfaced boat set to 0.9 the boat does give a fair amount of roll... BUT only when turning. When going straight - it gives a slight roll but it has too big frequency. Pitch... First I set the surfaced draught parameter to 5.0 to get the sub a little deeper in the water... With that I was satisfied, till I saw what happens on heavy sea... Disaster, that's what it is. Changing the seaparameters.cfg gives a little effect too. Crappy look, when the wave passes the boat and it still goes perfectly straight. I'm just tired with this for today. There must be another way to get this right, I wanna see my u-boat rocking on the heavy seas. One thing though I am happy with... When you change the gravity center to something about 0.4, when you blow your ballast for emergency surface, the boat nicely jumps out of the water. It looks quite like in The Hunt For The Red October (of course it's far from the angle they got when surfacing, but for a moment you can see the diveplanes) I hope someone deals with this soon, I'll definately try, but I doubt I'll succeed. EDIT: what BumpScaleU and BumpScaleV stands for? For me changing this values gave weird effects... Last edited by Pumbator; 03-23-10 at 02:42 PM.

04-23-10, 12:50 PM	#11
Truckerich Watch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico(USA) Posts: 30 Downloads: 2062 Uploads: 0	mIxEd Up I don"t get it. I have SH3-good, SH4, ok. But this SH5 lol. Half my keys don't work. I put generic mod enabler in the [ ubisoft game launcher directory ] and a directory called mods. Nothing. Iv'e tryed 2 dozen different mods, nothing. I hand walked a few mods one called dials.dds to it's proper dir [gui] i think, nothing!!. no dials no under keel key [u]. Don't know why my SM20 mod mission isn't working. I put were the other SM's is located. huh!! And i Don't now were I go to play those missions. If it's the Historic missions I dont see it. I want to load the Artic Campain same issue. SCREAM!!!!!!!!! I don't get it. Please any and all sugestions sure would be appreaciated. Besides all that I think the SH5 is great. THANK YOU, RICH. WHEN are we gona the see this new v.2 update? WINDOWS 7 ULTMATE 64-bit [ all drivers up to date ]. Raidmax Smilodon [Darktooth] Gaming Case w/added xtras 1100w Topower SLI P/Supply [PowerBird Series] Evga nForce 790i Ultra SLI MCP M/Board Samung SyncMaster T220 22" @ 1 ms r/r QUAD Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3.O MHZ 45nm RUNNING @3650mhz 33C & 35c games EVGA e-GeForce 9800GX2 SSC EXTREME 1000mb @675MHZ and 65c [idle] 70c gaming RAID-0 WITH 2-WD VELOCIRAPTOR 300GB each [Sata] HD @ 10,000 RPM] Domino ALC Coolit h2/0 CPU Cooler AND 10 FANS OCZ PLATINUM 8G PC1600 2000mHz memory running 1800mhz Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty X-treme Sound Card APC Back-UPS-NS SERGE 1250 w

05-12-13, 11:34 PM	#4
NeonsStyle Chief Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 326 Downloads: 195 Uploads: 0	File not found error. Could you please repost the link to the file please?

03-13-10, 08:17 PM	#7
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Great work , Q? on water/sea/ocean in games .. do you think we will see the water breaking the tops of waves ? The look of it in SH5 is great and the movement with the mod even better , but in games it looks like water is held under a flim and rolls very well , but you never get the white tops of water rolling or waves rolling over .. or wind whipping the top of the water ..

03-23-10, 02:34 PM	#10
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Exactly how is the game making the uboat flow with the ocean surface? Does anyone know or have a qualified opinion? I imagine that the uboat would be best off by being elevated up and down with the height of a wave, but also dampened by the scale of the wave so that the uboat doesn't elevate to the crest of the waves. So by the time the crest has reached its peak height, the uboat would still be moving sluggishly upwards. Hm, maybe modified by the actual wave height as well. So that smaller waves doesn't make the uboat jump up and down with the numerous small crests of the waves in a rather calm ocean. I don't know I thought this made sense.