First patch coming soon

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by razark

I remember quite a few games I played back in the DOS days that didn't require constant patching, or a patch on release day. I think the ease of internet access has led to a drop in quality control.

True, but I've seen both sides of the complaint. Someone not too long ago pointed out that the AI in Aces Of The Deep was close to perfect, and with less than 10% of the coding in SH4, so why couldn't they get it right, or keep it right. Looking at that from the other side, with a game more that 4GB in size the chances increase dramatically that no matter what they do they're never going to catch it all.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

True, but I've seen both sides of the complaint. Someone not too long ago pointed out that the AI in Aces Of The Deep was close to perfect, and with less than 10% of the coding in SH4, so why couldn't they get it right, or keep it right. Looking at that from the other side, with a game more that 4GB in size the chances increase dramatically that no matter what they do they're never going to catch it all.

Sadly, yes, they're not going to catch everything. I don't expect them to. All software has bugs, and not all of them will show up often enough to be caught in testing. Some of them may be rare enough and small enough in affect to not be bothered with.

But the patch is being released on release day. They had time to know some of what was wrong, create a fix for it, get the patch ready for the consumers, and put it on the servers on release day.

That tells me they knew they were releasing a faulty product. And they know the customers would roll over and accept it, because that's they way it is done.

Imagine I were selling cars, and said "Hey, I'm releasing model X on March 2nd", and then proceeded to take your money for one. March 2nd rolls around, and you show up to pick up your car. I hand over the keys, and say "Come back in about an hour. We'll have the brakes ready to install then. Also, the gas tank leaks, but we're working on a patch for it. For now, work around it by not putting more than 4 gallons in it."

How long would my car company last?

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

There's no such thing as "ready".

But there sure as hell is such a thing as "unready".

[Turbografx]

Originally Posted by razark

Imagine I were selling cars, and said "Hey, I'm releasing model X on March 2nd", and then proceeded to take your money for one. March 2nd rolls around, and you show up to pick up your car. I hand over the keys, and say "Come back in about an hour. We'll have the brakes ready to install then. Also, the gas tank leaks, but we're working on a patch for it. For now, work around it by not putting more than 4 gallons in it."

How long would my car company last?

Not too long, better apply for some federal bail-out money so you can pay yourself off.

[Von Taticus]

Problem 2: In the following situation the player cannot access the UPlay rewards:

- The player has Windows Vista or Windows 7 installed
- Uses a standard user account (no admin rights)
- Silent Hunter 5 is installed in the c:\Program Files\Folder (to prevent this, the game is installed by default in c:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter5 – not in Program Files)
- In Windows Vista and Windows 7, the “Program Files” folder has special restrictions, that leads to this problem

Admin rights required on your PC ....... what the heck are they doing inside the users PC?

[Jander]

it doesn't state anywhere that admin rights are required.

If you install the game in the program files folder under Vista or Win7, THEN you need admin rights.
But that's because in operating systems newer than XP, the program files folder has some kind of special protection which interferes with the game when you are not an admin. So, this is no evil "Ubi wants to hijack your computer" masterplan, but only a limitation or safety feature of Vista and Win7.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Von Taticus

Admin rights required on your PC ....... what the heck are they doing inside the users PC?

The newer versions of Windows keep regular users from mucking about in the C:\Program Files directory. Both for security and protection from people who don't know what they're doing with the computer.

[kylania]

Originally Posted by Von Taticus

Admin rights required on your PC ....... what the heck are they doing inside the users PC?

They aren't, that's the point. They try to install to C:\Ubisoft, but if someone manually installs to Program Files (usually by thinking "I won't install to my root! That's crazy!") then they run into problems.

So the work around really is to not try to work around anything.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Originally Posted by kylania

They aren't, that's the point. They try to install to C:\Ubisoft, but if someone manually installs to Program Files (usually by thinking "I won't install to my root! That's crazy!") then they run into problems.

So the work around really is to not try to work around anything.

1) Microsoft protecting the content of "program files" is a very good idea.
2) Installing any game in your OS hd or partition is a very bad idea.