subs on rails , again!

TH0R · 02-28-10, 04:58 PM

It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about.

Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about.

Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

Actually sh-3 did not have subs on rails. It was first introduced with sh-4 . Think of it a boat alsway rides the waves depended on the size and weight. A u-boat is relativly light for a boat and isnt that big either. There for it should ride the waves insted ot going throught them. And it the video it doing exacly not that. I mean seriouslt dont tell me you havent seen das boot?

TH0R · 02-28-10, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

Actually sh-3 did not have subs on rails. It was first introduced with sh-4 . Think of it a boat alsway rides the waves depended on the size and weight. A u-boat is relativly light for a boat and isnt that big either. There for it should ride the waves insted ot going throught them. And it the video it doing exacly not that. I mean seriouslt dont tell me you havent seen das boot?

Don't use the Das Boot reference, please.

The model they used there was 6m long - scene shot in a real ocean. What I saw looked more like Das Boot.

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

Don't use the Das Boot reference, please.

The model they used there was 6m long - scene shot in a real ocean. What I saw looked more like Das Boot.

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves. The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost horizontal when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

TH0R · 02-28-10, 05:30 PM

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I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves. The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost vertical when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

I miss understood you. You should have clarified that the horizontal-axial tilting isn't representing the proper sub motion in big waves.

On that I have to agree. The 'rails issue' from SH4 and now obviously SH5 is probably related to the 3D waves (wakes) IMO. But I might be wrong...

Steeltrap · 02-28-10, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

I miss understood you. You should have clarified that the horizontal-axial tilting isn't representing the proper sub motion in big waves.

On that I have to agree. The 'rails issue' from SH4 and now obviously SH5 is probably related to the 3D waves (wakes) IMO. But I might be wrong...

The most obvious example is the way the sub remains horizontal while breasting a wave then covering the trough. It ends up with large parts of the hull all bbut entirely out of the water as though maintaining a horizontal plane while the water rises and falls around it, instead of being part of/subject to the wave motion.

Looked terrible in SH4.....

THE_MASK · 02-28-10, 05:38 PM

The sub should ride the waves like in my sigature movie .
I noticed that the large waves are slightly too big and the crew goes under in one of the videos i seen . Easily fixed by adjusting wave height i reckon . I also noticed that the wave peak is non existant . The sub on rails is the biggest immersion killer along with the yellow outline on the clickable objects .

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

The most obvious example is the way the sub remains horizontal while breasting a wave then covering the trough. It ends up with large parts of the hull all bbut entirely out of the water as though maintaining a horizontal plane while the water rises and falls around it, instead of being part of/subject to the wave motion.

Looked terrible in SH4.....

So it does in sh-5. I was pretty confident the devs did not overlooked this problem. But it seems i am wrong on this one.

Sailor Steve · 02-28-10, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves.

I think that was his point. That model rode so well because it was so small.

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The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost vertical when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

I think you mean horizontal. Vertical would be standing on end. On the other hand I haven't seen a video with the boat completely out of the water, a la SH4. The video boat seems to be surging quite a bit (straight up and down), but not enough pitch.

Hopefully that's another thing they made easily adjustable.

02-28-10, 04:58 PM	#1
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about. Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

02-28-10, 05:38 PM	#7
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	The sub should ride the waves like in my sigature movie . I noticed that the large waves are slightly too big and the crew goes under in one of the videos i seen . Easily fixed by adjusting wave height i reckon . I also noticed that the wave peak is non existant . The sub on rails is the biggest immersion killer along with the yellow outline on the clickable objects .