subs on rails , again!
 

Check the 3rd video on the website.

http://www.marinesims.de/wbb2/thread...a79a4f04a5431b

Why did they keep the horrific subs on rails again! I,m pretty positive about sh-5 but this is something that has GOT to go! I mean why is it so hard to get this right. The community did for sh-4 ! Well guess yet another task for the modders!

What do you mean by "subs on rails"? I am not familiar with that term

It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about.

Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

They are rushing the games. They should take their time, get a new engine out or give the existing one a huge overhaul. Tho, I imagine the suits at Ubi have their hands on this and keeping the pressure on the devs to keep pumping out the games if they want publish via them. :hmmm:

The boat goes through the waves, instead of riding them.

Actually sh-3 did not have subs on rails. It was first introduced with sh-4 . Think of it a boat alsway rides the waves depended on the size and weight. A u-boat is relativly light for a boat and isnt that big either. There for it should ride the waves insted ot going throught them. And it the video it doing exacly not that. I mean seriouslt dont tell me you havent seen das boot?

Don't use the Das Boot reference, please. :D The model they used there was 6m long - scene shot in a real ocean. What I saw looked more like Das Boot. ;)

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves. The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost horizontal when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

I miss understood you. You should have clarified that the horizontal-axial tilting isn't representing the proper sub motion in big waves. :)

On that I have to agree. The 'rails issue' from SH4 and now obviously SH5 is probably related to the 3D waves (wakes) IMO. But I might be wrong...

I think that was his point. That model rode so well because it was so small.

I think you mean horizontal. Vertical would be standing on end. On the other hand I haven't seen a video with the boat completely out of the water, a la SH4. The video boat seems to be surging quite a bit (straight up and down), but not enough pitch.

Hopefully that's another thing they made easily adjustable.

The most obvious example is the way the sub remains horizontal while breasting a wave then covering the trough. It ends up with large parts of the hull all bbut entirely out of the water as though maintaining a horizontal plane while the water rises and falls around it, instead of being part of/subject to the wave motion.

Looked terrible in SH4.....

The sub should ride the waves like in my sigature movie .
I noticed that the large waves are slightly too big and the crew goes under in one of the videos i seen . Easily fixed by adjusting wave height i reckon . I also noticed that the wave peak is non existant . The sub on rails is the biggest immersion killer along with the yellow outline on the clickable objects .

So it does in sh-5. I was pretty confident the devs did not overlooked this problem. But it seems i am wrong on this one.

A little bit of particle splash as the ocean wave reach the upper part of the conning tower would be nice :yep:

W_CLEAR to the rescue .........up up and away .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kTWwJ9NQbY this explains it perfectly .