[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0 - Page 23

Fish40 · 02-23-10, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilcke

I have had that happen while hosing a saved game by imprudent use of JSGME.

Looks like that is not your problem. Will try your sub and date tonight. I am overdue for a patrol with RFB 2.0. More later.

Happy Hunting!

Thanks Wilcke. I decided to try one of the "War Patrols" I was in the South China Sea, 1944 Balao class. Played awhile, saved, reloaded the save, seemed OK. Resumed exactly where I left off. Don't know why the campaign is causing trouble

Bilge_Rat · 02-23-10, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DLight

did that allready, but still can see my sub as dot...

maybe there is file or something, that i can replace? i have full game folder backup.
sorry for bad language and noob questions...

I presume what you mean is that there are less NAV map updates, all the boxes are light gray and there is less info. Your boat does show up as a dot, unless you zoom in very close. You also lose all target lines on the ATTACK map.

That is the way it shows up in RFB 2.0, I'm afraid. AFAIK, the only way to go back to the stock behavior is to uninstal the mod.

Wilcke · 02-23-10, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I presume what you mean is that there are less NAV map updates, all the boxes are light gray and there is less info. Your boat does show up as a dot, unless you zoom in very close. You also lose all target lines on the ATTACK map.

That is the way it shows up in RFB 2.0, I'm afraid. AFAIK, the only way to go back to the stock behavior is to uninstal the mod.

Having not tried it with the latest build of RFB, TMO Plot might be the way to go. Will have to throw it in and see if it works! Good question!

HMCS · 02-23-10, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilcke

Having not tried it with the latest build of RFB, TMO Plot might be the way to go. Will have to throw it in and see if it works! Good question!

It does. I use it all the time.

I was wondering about two things:

First, the DD's still seem to pitch and roll a bit much.

Second: inertia and drift. I find that it takes a lot more mucking about with the engines to get my sub to stop moving. That, and stationary objects (targets) now drift along with the waves.

TH0R · 02-23-10, 07:39 PM

Fog patch: post updated with new contact info.

Fish40 · 02-24-10, 05:23 PM

I decided to uninstall / reinstall RFB ect.. I started a new campaign, same date, sub, and port. I set course for Midway to top off my fuel befor heading off to my assigned patrol area (East China Sea). I time compressed for a 24hr period after leaving Pearl. I saved the game, and successfully reloaded the save. Hopefully all is good now.

Hitman · 02-25-10, 09:45 AM

I just discovered that RSRD has its own sensors file, which will overwrite the RFB one

Wonder how many people here who reported problems with fog have also RSRD installed

Fish40 · 02-25-10, 10:54 AM

There is still one oddity that I'm seeing since the advent of 2.0. My ship smoke renders as "puffs" instead of a steady stream. I'm useing Keldunk's RFB tweaks, which was for the previous version of RFB. This mod just adds / improves sub exaust smoke, and improves the look and duration of flood vent water streams. I'm wondering if this could be the cause

lurker_hlb3 · 02-25-10, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

I just discovered that RSRD has its own sensors file, which will overwrite the RFB one

Wonder how many people here who reported problems with fog have also RSRD installed

And just what is the evil RSRDC begin accused of breaking and where is your documented proof?

Fish40 · 02-25-10, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

I just discovered that RSRD has its own sensors file, which will overwrite the RFB one

Wonder how many people here who reported problems with fog have also RSRD installed

I thought if a mod was made to be compatable, all should be OK.

Hence the different versions of RSRD.

Nephandus · 02-25-10, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

And just what is the evil RSRDC begin accused of breaking and where is your documented proof?

I wouldn't say evil.... I do employ the latex RSRDC including the patch... and the visual detection of the AI crew is a bit off the actual visual range for the player. Basically the AI detects targets way before the player is actually able to see even smoke on the horizon.

lurker_hlb3 · 02-25-10, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephandus

I wouldn't say evil.... I do employ the latex RSRDC including the patch... and the visual detection of the AI crew is a bit off the actual visual range for the player. Basically the AI detects targets way before the player is actually able to see even smoke on the horizon.

I'm currently at work and when I get home we will find out who is breaking what and find out if Hitmans claim is valid

sergei · 02-25-10, 12:22 PM

Hold up. Let's just nip this in the bud before it goes any further.

I took a look at the sensors.dat file that comes with RSRD. It seems to be concerned with German U-Boat equipment. Here is a screenshot.

As you can see, this has no relation to US fleetboats. I'm not quite sure what this is doing in RSRD but I am sure Lurker has a good reason for it being there. This file does not affect fleetboats.

The files that affect fleetboat sensors are all called 'Sensors_sub_US'.
RSRD makes no changes to the 'Sensors_sub_US' files.

Looking at the files included in RSRD leads me to believe that RSRD is not responsible for any shortcomings in the visual detection model in RFB.

sergei · 02-25-10, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephandus

Basically the AI detects targets way before the player is actually able to see even smoke on the horizon.

Just to add to my point, I am seeing this behavior running just RFB on its own.

kstanb · 02-25-10, 02:31 PM

Hi, hope someone can answer a small question

I am playing with RFB 2.0 + RSRD + OM, full realism, no map updates

in campaigns, I was used to get once in a while a map contact; either a small square for lone ships or a big one for convoys, the problem is that it used to show course and speed (slow, med, fast). Now I am getting only the square with no course, so really unless it is very close, not worth the effort to try to intercept

is that wad? a bug? not related to RFB?

sorry if this was already discussed
thanks!

02-25-10, 09:45 AM	#337
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I just discovered that RSRD has its own sensors file, which will overwrite the RFB one Wonder how many people here who reported problems with fog have also RSRD installed __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-25-10, 12:22 PM	#343
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Hold up. Let's just nip this in the bud before it goes any further. I took a look at the sensors.dat file that comes with RSRD. It seems to be concerned with German U-Boat equipment. Here is a screenshot. As you can see, this has no relation to US fleetboats. I'm not quite sure what this is doing in RSRD but I am sure Lurker has a good reason for it being there. This file does not affect fleetboats. The files that affect fleetboat sensors are all called 'Sensors_sub_US'. RSRD makes no changes to the 'Sensors_sub_US' files. Looking at the files included in RSRD leads me to believe that RSRD is not responsible for any shortcomings in the visual detection model in RFB. Last edited by sergei; 02-25-10 at 02:11 PM.

02-23-10, 07:39 PM	#335
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Fog patch: post updated with new contact info.

02-24-10, 05:23 PM	#336
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I decided to uninstall / reinstall RFB ect.. I started a new campaign, same date, sub, and port. I set course for Midway to top off my fuel befor heading off to my assigned patrol area (East China Sea). I time compressed for a 24hr period after leaving Pearl. I saved the game, and successfully reloaded the save. Hopefully all is good now.

02-25-10, 10:54 AM	#338
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	There is still one oddity that I'm seeing since the advent of 2.0. My ship smoke renders as "puffs" instead of a steady stream. I'm useing Keldunk's RFB tweaks, which was for the previous version of RFB. This mod just adds / improves sub exaust smoke, and improves the look and duration of flood vent water streams. I'm wondering if this could be the cause

02-25-10, 02:31 PM	#345
kstanb Sparky Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 153 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Hi, hope someone can answer a small question I am playing with RFB 2.0 + RSRD + OM, full realism, no map updates in campaigns, I was used to get once in a while a map contact; either a small square for lone ships or a big one for convoys, the problem is that it used to show course and speed (slow, med, fast). Now I am getting only the square with no course, so really unless it is very close, not worth the effort to try to intercept is that wad? a bug? not related to RFB? sorry if this was already discussed thanks!