Support the Community - DONT BUY SHV - Page 2

cherbert · 02-24-10, 10:39 AM

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Support SUBSIM Community - DONT BUY SHV

Seems a massive contradiction in terms to me?

I'm buying it.

Itkovian · 02-24-10, 10:42 AM

I am new to this community (I've been lurking for a while, mind you), but I am buying SHV to support the developers, and anybody willing to invest in simulations.

There are too few game studios out there who devote time and energy to simulations, and all of them deserve support IMO (given that you enjoy that kind of simulation, naturally). The 90s are over, and while there has been something of a resurgence of simulators in the east, the market is far from generous.

Ubi's DRM is unfortunate, and I hope it will fade away as the RoF one did, but campaigning to deny the sales that the devs depend on to survive is not the way to go IMO.

Thank you.

Itkovian

Hackerspy · 02-24-10, 10:44 AM

I am going to BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Al of you who tell us not to buy a suck EXCEPTIONAL game, are....... and don't force us not to buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Méo · 02-24-10, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Itkovian

I am new to this community (I've been lurking for a while, mind you), but I am buying SHV to support the developers, and anybody willing to invest in simulations.

There are too few game studios out there who devote time and energy to simulations, and all of them deserve support IMO (given that you enjoy that kind of simulation, naturally). The 90s are over, and while there has been something of a resurgence of simulators in the east, the market is far from generous.

Ubi's DRM is unfortunate, and I hope it will fade away as the RoF one did, but campaigning to deny the sales that the devs depend on to survive is not the way to go IMO.

Thank you.

Itkovian

100% agree.

Welcome aboard!

pythos · 02-24-10, 10:47 AM

DRM will die. SH5 will Rock.

That is my decree.

Ragtag · 02-24-10, 10:55 AM

Even though i am one of them giving Ubi a msg by holding off a buy for now, i'm not a fanatic shoving opinions down someones throat. That would be übi behavior

Please close this thread!

martes86 · 02-24-10, 11:01 AM

IMO, this thread goes too far. Giving your opinion is one thing, and openly organizing massive boycott is another (with which, for the moment, I don't agree). And I think there was some moderator directive against it.

Also, punching those of us who are buying it (for whatever reason, which can be very different from one person to another in some cases) isn't giving your cause a good press around here either.

Heretic · 02-24-10, 11:03 AM

When a movement starts demanding loyalty tests, that movement has gone off the rails. What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands. They're bullies, plain and simple, and I'm not going to give in to them.

rcjonessnp175 · 02-24-10, 11:05 AM

we should just start a case of beer thread for the modders as theyll once again save this series hats of to the modders and wish Dave was here to get his hands on this puppy.

Jonesy

TDK1044 · 02-24-10, 11:06 AM

I hope that the game succeeds, and that at some point Ubisoft removes the necessity to be connected to the internet in order to play it. At that point, I will purchase it. In the meantime, I wish the members who will be purchasing it well.

Méo · 02-24-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands.

Once again Heretic, Well said!

Hitman · 02-24-10, 11:14 AM

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When a movement starts demanding loyalty tests, that movement has gone off the rails. What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands. They're bullies, plain and simple, and I'm not going to give in to them.

I agree with that. I won't buy SH5 as long as the DRM is there, but anyone is free to do whatever they want. No loyalties owed to anyone, the less so in your buying preferences

mookiemookie · 02-24-10, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

When a movement starts demanding loyalty tests, that movement has gone off the rails. What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands. They're bullies, plain and simple, and I'm not going to give in to them.

Great post. I never responded well to bullies when I was little. When they shoved me, I was the type to see red and shove back. I still take the same approach today.

jimimadrid · 02-24-10, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pythos

DRM will die. SH5 will Rock.

That is my decree.

100% my opinion. I will buy it.

Buddahaid · 02-24-10, 11:34 AM

I once bought some milk that was spoiled, I'm not buying any more milk until they remove the DRM.

I've already purchased the game and am really looking forward to the new interface since it hasn't changed much from the beginning of time. I may not like it, but that's for me to decide.

02-24-10, 10:55 AM	#21
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	Even though i am one of them giving Ubi a msg by holding off a buy for now, i'm not a fanatic shoving opinions down someones throat. That would be übi behavior Please close this thread! __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

02-24-10, 11:03 AM	#23
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	When a movement starts demanding loyalty tests, that movement has gone off the rails. What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands. They're bullies, plain and simple, and I'm not going to give in to them. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-24-10, 11:05 AM	#24
rcjonessnp175 Weps Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panzer barracks, Germany Posts: 363 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	we should just start a case of beer thread for the modders as theyll once again save this series hats of to the modders and wish Dave was here to get his hands on this puppy. Jonesy __________________ The mother ship,Coolermaster HAF, I7 intel overclock 4ghz, , 6gb mem, 5870 crossfire, soundblaster Xfi titanium , Oh and 52 inch samsung 750 120hz. 7.1 onkyo 1200 wattss system

02-24-10, 10:42 AM	#17
Itkovian Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 106 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I am new to this community (I've been lurking for a while, mind you), but I am buying SHV to support the developers, and anybody willing to invest in simulations. There are too few game studios out there who devote time and energy to simulations, and all of them deserve support IMO (given that you enjoy that kind of simulation, naturally). The 90s are over, and while there has been something of a resurgence of simulators in the east, the market is far from generous. Ubi's DRM is unfortunate, and I hope it will fade away as the RoF one did, but campaigning to deny the sales that the devs depend on to survive is not the way to go IMO. Thank you. Itkovian

02-24-10, 10:44 AM	#18
Hackerspy Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 20 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I am going to BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! Al of you who tell us not to buy a suck EXCEPTIONAL game, are....... and don't force us not to buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-24-10, 10:47 AM	#20
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	DRM will die. SH5 will Rock. That is my decree.

02-24-10, 11:01 AM	#22
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	IMO, this thread goes too far. Giving your opinion is one thing, and openly organizing massive boycott is another (with which, for the moment, I don't agree). And I think there was some moderator directive against it. Also, punching those of us who are buying it (for whatever reason, which can be very different from one person to another in some cases) isn't giving your cause a good press around here either.

02-24-10, 11:06 AM	#25
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I hope that the game succeeds, and that at some point Ubisoft removes the necessity to be connected to the internet in order to play it. At that point, I will purchase it. In the meantime, I wish the members who will be purchasing it well.

02-24-10, 11:34 AM	#30
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I once bought some milk that was spoiled, I'm not buying any more milk until they remove the DRM. I've already purchased the game and am really looking forward to the new interface since it hasn't changed much from the beginning of time. I may not like it, but that's for me to decide.