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Old 02-19-10, 02:39 AM   #1
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I'll bet he was their best swimmer too.
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Old 02-19-10, 04:27 AM   #2
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The actual formula for horizon distance during normal daytime is:

Max_Distance[miles]=2.08 * sqrt(Observer_Height[m])

This is based on the curvature of the earth AND the refractive index of air at sea level at a certain temperature and latitude.

By combining the vision fields of the observer and the target, the maximum distance at which the target mast can be seen is:

Max_Distance[miles] = 2.08 * (sqrt (Observer_Height [m]) + sqrt (Target_Height [m]))

Judging from the Type VII dimensions, the observer's eye must've been at around 5 meters:

Heigth = 9.60 m (31 ft 6 in)
Draft = 4.72 m
Railing Height = 1.4 m
Average man = 1.7 m

Eye Height = 9.6-4.72-1.4+1.7 = 5.18 m

Which gives us a 4.8 mile horizon distance (8800 meters).
Thus, a ship with a mast of 25 meters above water would be visible at 15.1 miles (28 kilometers!).

By climbing up on the periscope you gain 5 more meters on the observer height (let's say a total of 10 meters). So:

Which gives us a 6.6 mile horizon distance (12,225 meters).
And a ship with a mast of 25 meters above water would be visible at 17 miles (31.5 kilometers!).

Of course, the real situations were very different. To actually SEE something, let alone identify it properly, it would need to be much closer. What's important is that beyond 8 kilometers you wouldn't be able to see the waterline of ANY ship. Weather conditions, funnel smoke, lighting conditions, all have a major effect.
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Old 02-19-10, 04:39 AM   #3
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You also have to bear in mind that the human eye is only good for one
arc minuet in ideal conditions. that means you will struggle to see
anything smaller than 3cm at a range of 100m.

At 10km you will struggle to see a 3m white object against a black
background. That's not good if you want to see a grey mast against
a hazy blue background from a moving boat, even if it is not obscured
against the curvature of the earth.
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Old 02-19-10, 05:17 AM   #4
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"Was this common practise."
Only for Bernard.
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Old 02-19-10, 05:27 AM   #5
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I thought it was smoke they looked for.

Alot of those old rust bucket freighters in a convoy smoked like a forest fire.
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Dick O'Kane describes in some detail the Crow's Nest they installed on Tang in Clear the Bridge. Wasn't common, but he certainly had one.
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Old 02-19-10, 09:57 AM   #7
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I wonder if the periscope was raised to its fullest height when used like that.

Any type of rocking of the submarine will put tremendous stresses on the periscope tubes.
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