Awesome in its awesomeness

[sav112]

After reading from the many post on the threads in here from credible members that know what there talking about and are active members unlike myself. I find it hard to get excited about a game that looks like firstly there is mistake all over the place, has limited content compared to the previous versions.

Yes it looks very nice, but then you look again and you see shadows missing etc and in today’s games that’s sloppy. The limited Video releases tells its own story and that there scared stiff and not proud of there work.

When I first learnt SH5 was on the cards I thought great it will be the game I wished for in SH3 my last sub purchase, everything has moved on so much with Computer hardware. But I’m disappointed at what I’ve seen so far and I was even going to bring my new purchase of a new Rig to run this forward as at present I have a five year old system.

Well done in getting excited about a game that really has nothing good to say about itself so far.
And I tip my cap to those who I regard on here that fight to enlighten us and encourage us not to accept sloppy, lazy, rushed game releases. Fan boys add nothing.

[HundertzehnGustav]

People judge by what they are shown.
and what they are shown is apprearently not much, less than they expected, and reason for a lot of negativity.

Let them vent.
Let me vent.

Moan about DRM but get a grip people - I'm sick to death

me being a part of tha "moaning" "people"... dont tell me wether i have to get a grip or not. I could "possibly" thake that personal.

Thanks.

*edit*
That does not mean i am putting the programers and SHV creators work down in any way. I applaude them for their continued efforts!

[JU_88]

Well IMHO the missing years and lack of Boat types is really quite forgivable.
It was only expected because of what was present in SH3, but we have to apprieciate that they are quite deiffernt games. The SH5 campaign is far more detailed that SH3 so it takes longer to script, the U-boat models plus full interior is also far more detailed than SH3, so again it takes much longer to model and implement.
Sometimes less is more.

The DRM is really the main problem here.
I will still buy the game and try to live with it (call me a scab if you want), but I have no argument with those who will not, I dont view those with no (or weak) internet connection as 'whiners' they have every right to be angry.

The the part that upsets me most about the DRM? It will likely probably be cracked soon enought anyway, in which case the pirates will be mearly 'delayed' while legit customers will suffer or go without and the Publisher loses out on substancial sales from both potential customers AND pirates alike.
Look what happened to Spore (and that was over an install limit)

I would assume that Ubi would need to bail on the DRM as soon as is it cracked by pirates, failing to do so would be suicide.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by sav112

credible members that know what there talking about

They know what they are talking about? ...we shall see.

IMHO, the most credible members here did not say a word, or very few.

[Laffertytig]

i echo the OP's comments. its gettin really old everyone rippin SH5 to shreds callin it an arcade game etc.

the DRM issue is an entirely different subject but lets just wait to see what its like before rippin it a new one

[sav112]

Originally Posted by Méo

They know what they are talking about? ...we shall see.

IMHO, the most credible members here did not say a word, or very few.

Don’t see that at all, in fact it’s the senior Members that have raised there fears over the many posts but then I don’t know how much you read on here…… I have no experience with DRM so wont comment apart from that sounds poor. But when a member posts a remark then backs it up with picture evidence then I take it on board and rightly so.

I’m I thinking twice about buying this – Yes. But I’m not a big game buyer as I’ve said last game was FM2008 and before that BF2. But I do Buy a game if I think it will be quality and give me hours of entertainment.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by sav112

Don’t see that at all, in fact it’s the senior Members that have raised there fears over the many posts but then I don’t know how much you read on here…… I have no experience with DRM so wont comment apart from that sounds poor. But when a member posts a remark then backs it up with picture evidence then I take it on board and rightly so.

I’m I thinking twice about buying this – Yes. But I’m not a big game buyer as I’ve said last game was FM2008 and before that BF2. But I do Buy a game if I think it will be quality and give me hours of entertainment.

Personally I dont care what anyone says about the screenshots & videos, Senior member or not - it means nothing to me, they sill havent played the game and are just making observations (usually negative) that lead to assumptions.

I will play the game for myself and form my own opinion. I will listen to what others think about SHV as it can be intresting/funny/whatever -but I will not let it influence what ever I decide to do.

[piri_reis]

Nobody is telling you that you can't buy it. Buy all means go and get it the minute it hits the shelves.
People express their own opinions about what they see from screenshots/videos/interviews etc.
What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Nobody is telling you that you can't buy it. Buy all means go and get it the minute it hits the shelves.
People express their own opinions about what they see from screenshots/videos/interviews etc.
What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march

Again, that last part is YOUR opinon
Who are you to judge the sensiblities of others? and likewise who are they to judge yours?
I will decide how awesome it is for me when I play it. End of story.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Again, that last part is YOUR opinon
Who are you to judge the sensiblities of others? and likewise who are we to judge yours?
I will decide how awesome it is for me when I play it. end of story.

Good post.

I've been noticing a real undertone of "if you don't share my opinion of the game you're crazy/stupid/etc." in the forum lately and I don't like it.

[martes86]

Originally Posted by cherbert

All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!

I totally agree with that point. I've been saying that for some days now, apparently, those of us wanting to buy it to be able to make an informed decision for ourselves, are a bunch of fools. Whatever, I think that makes us more of a bunch of smart guys, than fools. At least we'll know what we're talking about.
Though I don't agree with you in the point that the GUI looks cool. That's one of the few facts we can see in the screencaps we've been presented so far, and, while I understand it's the choice the Devs must have had to take in order to have an usable minimalistic interface, I quite don't find it the most appropiate choice. Will be modded for sure after release though, so doesn't really bother me.

Originally Posted by JU_88

I will play the game for myself and form my own opinion. I will listen to what others think about SHV as it can be intresting/funny/whatever -but I will not let it influence what ever I decide to do.

Welcome to the club.

Originally Posted by piri_reis

What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march

A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics. Nowhere near close to functional details and the realism environment (the IA sees your closer or further, what happens when an enemy bullet hits you, what happens to ships when they're hit by a torpedo, what happens when you take manual control of the TVR -TDC for everyone else-, what happens if you're surfaced on daylight at 1943, etc...), just all the eyecandy, which we're quite familiar with right now.
And, it's not like the most expensive game you'll find, so, one buys it, and if it's no good, then, ok, some money spent, but at least you have the right to say if it's pure crap or not.

Cheers

[piri_reis]

Originally Posted by martes86

A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics.

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.

LOL no one is talking about it being wrong to express opinions before the game is out, just that seems silly too decide weather to buy or skip the game based on those opinions.

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk,

Oh sure - how dare he show enthusiam for the game, that is a cardinal sin around here, brand him as a 'fanboy'. and beat him with negativity sticks until he learns that its 'cool to hate'

BTW you misquoted him - he said "From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible" not that 'it is'.

Anyway Im buying SH5 based on this.

Sh3 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh4 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh5....

You do the math.

[martes86]

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?

Well, I never said people should just shut up. I just think that before rushing to negative conclussions and bothering the Devs about it, we should wait to test the game, or wait till we get much more in-depth information. Of course, people can do what they please, I'm not here to tell people what should or should not do.

Preordering, it's not something I like to do in general. I prefer to go to the stores in my city (to support local distribution), or to get games through Steam once they're out. It's not like I'll get it sooner (not much though) if I preorder it.

Cheers

[urfisch]

...to me the game still looks like a big, big building site...there will be so much to do, until we get a state of "acceptable so far".

and since we seem not to get any further information on the tools, there still remains the fear of a totally failed game to me. cause one thing is for sure: the game at the state of release, will not be acceptable. and if theres no possibility to change the content, the game will be a big shoot in the foot.

nothing else.