The Press Blasts Ubisoft! - Page 2

karamazovnew · 02-04-10, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

i actually loved this part best:

now its amazing how its going to check the disk if it isnt in the drive? or are they getting their lies mixed up?

Hard-DISK....

I love this part:

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"This is fine," one self-professed pirate told Ars. "I only have to access the Internet once to get Ubisoft games. You're the ones paying for a broken copy."

Clearly, the pirate-lords are very scared...

The Enigma · 02-04-10, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I disagree. I want the hits to be to the bridge. Rather have them get the message up close and personal than have them sink.

Me neither, but it will be hard to survive if they insist to go down that road.

MercurySeven · 02-04-10, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

now its amazing how its going to check the disk if it isnt in the drive? or are they getting their lies mixed up?

I assume it checks when you install. You basically start up the internet before you open the packaging.

02-04-10, 02:46 PM

i do not "want" UBI to fail but if they are now a company that has decided to stop listening to its customers then isnt that a good reason for them to fail?

if it does happen then all we can hope for is that a better run company can take over their intelectual property (big word for the games they own) and really give the customers a product the customers want to buy.

in my mind once a company decides "they know better then you" and start telling you that what they want is what you should want then they are doomed to fail and its time for new management or the company to fail?

its how and why buisnesses fail and get taken over every day.

in buisness its very simple, you keep your customers happy and they will be loyal and keep spending money on your games, you show customers you dont care what they want and they will stop buying your games, loyalties go out the window, and the company pays a severe financial penalty that may or may not lead to the companies downfall.

Hitman · 02-04-10, 02:59 PM

The funny thing is that they believe this will increase sales, because now all pirates won't be able to crack the game and will need to buy it. How wrong they are. The fact that lots of kids who download and play one hour a game are out there, doesn't mean they would pay for the game. Nor will pay for it those who have not enough money in underdeveloped countries (They might pirate a game, but they can't afford buying it), or who just wanted to take a look.

The other usual excuse is that now with this new DRM most users won't notice at all and won't even realize that the game checks the internt. Fine. But you are actually talking about people who were already going to buy it, not to pirates who have to bit the bullet and buy the game! I know some people who download films, music and games from internet, and talking with them you soon realize that they wouldn't be buying it if it were protected.

I don't think that SH5 sales will increase thanks to the DRM. It will just scare away legit users who aren't going to allow this, and deter pirates who would not have bought the game anyway.

Time will tell which number will be bigger: The pirates who become honest and now buy the game, or the legit users sick of this who no longer buy it.

I suspect the answer already

JU_88 · 02-04-10, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

The funny thing is that they believe this will increase sales, because now all pirates won't be able to crack the game and will need to buy it. How wrong they are. The fact that lots of kids who download and play one hour a game are out there, doesn't mean they would pay for the game. Nor will pay for it those who have not enough money in underdeveloped countries (They might pirate a game, but they can't afford buying it), or who just wanted to take a look.

If Ubi is thinking like that, then really are out of touch.
But you are quite right, many pirates are actually digital hoarders and opportunists who will download stuff they wouldnt normally buy, just because they can.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if many illegal game downloads even get installed, let aloneplayed and up just rotting on someones HHD.
Reason being, anything that is free loses all appreciative value.

I have known certain 'Torrent junkies' who even never play/watch/listen to half the stuff they download/steal, simply because they have more hard drive space than they have time (or sense).

Simple fact not every illegal downloads is a lost sale, but because there is no way to monitor this or get an accurate statistic, I can understand that the publisher just assumes its a 1 for 1 loss on every illegal download -giving the perception that problem is much worse than it actually is and then slap on the DRM.

conus00 · 02-04-10, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

Hope it's coming at them in the form of a projectile from one of an Iowa's guns. Nothing like a 2700 lb. shell coming at you at 2690 ft/s to scare the bejeezus out of you.

Hey, you don't need Iowa for that. Just use the single 88 cm gun on "Ubisoft's VIIA". That would make a quite BANG.

Nickolas · 02-04-10, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by conus00

Hey, you don't need Iowa for that. Just use the single 88 cm gun on "Ubisoft's VIIA". That would make a quite BANG.

and being that is FAST FIRING it might work as a MRSI (multiple rounds, simultaneous impact) system.

Stealth Hunter · 02-04-10, 05:10 PM

"BLASTS". Like literally, they took a cannon and fired it at them. It's funny when people on TV say stuff like this.

I really could care less if it has DRM or not. If it does, it's not going to bother me. Neither will the internet connection stuff. If it doesn't, well that's great. I can download it first and try it out, then decide if I want to buy it or not.

Really, I don't care. I just want it to be released already so I can play it.

Ragtag · 02-04-10, 05:15 PM

If ubisoft claims that they can just patch the game and remove the OSP if they decide to put down the servers, the game can be cracked. And im willing to bet money that it will be. Maybe not the day it's released but at some point yes. Nothing is impossible. There are tons of examples of that not to mention that there are som brilliant brains out there that would just love give it a shot. And when they manage to crack it once they can crack them all. And in the end the paying customer is the one being "punished"... again.
That's one of the reasons i'm against the OSP. They don't hurt or stop piracy but they do attack the buyers with solutions like this. The wrong side pays for it.

GREY WOLF 3 · 02-04-10, 05:25 PM

Ubisoft has stumbled with DRM in the past. Last summer, legally downloaded copies of Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for the PC wouldn’t work because they lacked an authentication disc (duh), and the company resorted to an illegal crack from a warez group to fix it (d’oh). A few months prior, DRM rendered Assassin’s Creed unplayable for some rightful owners as it unsuccessfully tried to authenticate over the Internet.

I like this part

the company resorted to an illegal crack from a warez group to fix it (d’oh

Letum · 02-04-10, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Really, I don't care. I just want it to be released already so I can play it.

Latest rumor is that it has been delayed to Q4 2010.
Good thing in my opinion.

Carotio · 02-04-10, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Latest rumor is that it has been delayed to Q4 2010.
Good thing in my opinion.

I hope you don't quote me for that....

Nisgeis · 02-04-10, 06:46 PM

What travels faster than light? Rumours.

Letum · 02-04-10, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Latest rumor is that it has been delayed to Q4 2010.
Good thing in my opinion.

False alarm!
You just can't get the translation staff these days.

02-04-10, 02:59 PM	#20
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The funny thing is that they believe this will increase sales, because now all pirates won't be able to crack the game and will need to buy it. How wrong they are. The fact that lots of kids who download and play one hour a game are out there, doesn't mean they would pay for the game. Nor will pay for it those who have not enough money in underdeveloped countries (They might pirate a game, but they can't afford buying it), or who just wanted to take a look. The other usual excuse is that now with this new DRM most users won't notice at all and won't even realize that the game checks the internt. Fine. But you are actually talking about people who were already going to buy it, not to pirates who have to bit the bullet and buy the game! I know some people who download films, music and games from internet, and talking with them you soon realize that they wouldn't be buying it if it were protected. I don't think that SH5 sales will increase thanks to the DRM. It will just scare away legit users who aren't going to allow this, and deter pirates who would not have bought the game anyway. Time will tell which number will be bigger: The pirates who become honest and now buy the game, or the legit users sick of this who no longer buy it. I suspect the answer already __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-04-10, 05:15 PM	#25
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	If ubisoft claims that they can just patch the game and remove the OSP if they decide to put down the servers, the game can be cracked. And im willing to bet money that it will be. Maybe not the day it's released but at some point yes. Nothing is impossible. There are tons of examples of that not to mention that there are som brilliant brains out there that would just love give it a shot. And when they manage to crack it once they can crack them all. And in the end the paying customer is the one being "punished"... again. That's one of the reasons i'm against the OSP. They don't hurt or stop piracy but they do attack the buyers with solutions like this. The wrong side pays for it. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

02-04-10, 05:25 PM	#26
GREY WOLF 3 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Down deep avoiding drm attacks Posts: 284 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Ubisoft has stumbled with DRM in the past. Last summer, legally downloaded copies of Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for the PC wouldn’t work because they lacked an authentication disc (duh), and the company resorted to an illegal crack from a warez group to fix it (d’oh). A few months prior, DRM rendered Assassin’s Creed unplayable for some rightful owners as it unsuccessfully tried to authenticate over the Internet. I like this part the company resorted to an illegal crack from a warez group to fix it (d’oh __________________

02-04-10, 06:46 PM	#29
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	What travels faster than light? Rumours. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

02-04-10, 02:46 PM	#19
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	i do not "want" UBI to fail but if they are now a company that has decided to stop listening to its customers then isnt that a good reason for them to fail? if it does happen then all we can hope for is that a better run company can take over their intelectual property (big word for the games they own) and really give the customers a product the customers want to buy. in my mind once a company decides "they know better then you" and start telling you that what they want is what you should want then they are doomed to fail and its time for new management or the company to fail? its how and why buisnesses fail and get taken over every day. in buisness its very simple, you keep your customers happy and they will be loyal and keep spending money on your games, you show customers you dont care what they want and they will stop buying your games, loyalties go out the window, and the company pays a severe financial penalty that may or may not lead to the companies downfall.

02-04-10, 05:10 PM	#24
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	"BLASTS". Like literally, they took a cannon and fired it at them. It's funny when people on TV say stuff like this. I really could care less if it has DRM or not. If it does, it's not going to bother me. Neither will the internet connection stuff. If it doesn't, well that's great. I can download it first and try it out, then decide if I want to buy it or not. Really, I don't care. I just want it to be released already so I can play it.