The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread - Page 44

KING111 · 02-01-10, 01:38 PM

h\\p://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21564
you may have to register on the site to see it
but they are talking about pay as you go for
storm of war the same as in rise of flight

wetwarev7 · 02-01-10, 02:27 PM

I'd like to just throw my two cents in here in hopes that Ubi does actually read these. (or any other devs/publishers)

I don't like DRM. I'm not going to bother justifying it. If you use DRM on your game, there's a chance I'm just not gonna buy it.

Signed,
Your Customer

Letum · 02-01-10, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KING111

h\\p://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21564
you may have to register on the site to see it
but they are talking about pay as you go for
storm of war the same as in rise of flight

No, Oleg mentioned "paid addons".

Il2 had paid addons; Forgotten battles, Pe2, Pacific fighters Etc.
Nothing new there.

subsimlee · 02-01-10, 02:49 PM

What a great way to force people to buy future games!!!!

Simply shut down DRM server support for current sims and games....( that never crossed the minds of the Ubi suits....NNaaaaa 'course not! )

KING111 · 02-01-10, 03:17 PM

Letun
i may have been confused because they were
comparing it to Rise Of Flight
anyway if its got DRM i will not be buying it
like lots of others on these site
as for Ub reading these and giving a dame
i don't think the do
thats why the preiscope view looks so bad
its simplified so beginners can play it without
looking at the manual every five minutes

OldFrenchy · 02-01-10, 03:34 PM

I love the various simulations that have been produced, but as a matter of principle I cannot buy into online registration that requires an internet connection to play. That would make it a rental.

Anyone familiar with the Amazon Kindle flap? The company sold online titles to download to the Kindle- digital books. One morning the owners woke up to find that Amazon had deleted the purchased content without authorization because the company had violated some copyright laws. Of course the company apologized after the customers rioted, but they did it nonetheless.

Piracy is an issue, but WallEye is putting the spotlight on the problem. At what point do you start objecting to mindless intrusion by either governments or corporations?
Benjamin Franklin said it best: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "

I. for one, will withhold purchasing this product until they come up with a better, less intrusive solution.

OldFrenchy

karamazovnew · 02-01-10, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walleye

as a citizen of a former people's dictatorship, i can't decide if i should laugh or cry.

in pre 1989 romania, if you had a weapon permit, it came packaged with rude cops entering your property without your permision to check the whereabouts of your weapon(s) and ammo. you were supposed to register typewriters, copy machines and photo cameras with the local precinct. you were not allowed to posses just any kind of radio or tv set, only those that were "approved" ie certified that one couldn't receive BBC or Radio Free Europe with them. yea, you had to register those anyway. police scanners? i believe they started with seven years for that.

It wasn't THAT bad. You might forget that everyone had to fulfill a quota. A doctor had to prevent having more than X deaths but at the same time he had to cure Y patients every month, just to prevent being kicked out. Same went for the Police. If they had too many arrests, it would look bad on their report. A lot of things were said to be put into practice, but were not. At least for "normal" people. God forbid having a beautiful "capitalist" house in Bucharest at that time. My grandfather served in the border patrols and then became village mayor. He warned people about inspections. After a while, word got out and they came after him. They didn't arrest him, no... they told him "next time when you warn them, ask them to put something aside for us, we have to make a living too".

I had a video player since 1984 and tons of cassettes. I saw "1984" in 1988, I saw Jesus Christ Superstar in 1987 or so. Passing them at the airport border only costed a couple of western ciggarets. Malboro packs were a second currency.

Anyway, OSP and DRM are nothing like the communist era. Hey, we log in to use this forum, it's no different from logging in online to play a game. I highly doubt they'll use trojans to browse through our porn preferences.

Letum · 02-01-10, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

I highly doubt they'll use trojans to browse through our porn preferences.

Don't doubt it too much.
Ubisoft have done it before to browse through your installed games.
LINK

karamazovnew · 02-01-10, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Don't doubt it too much.
Ubisoft have done it before to browse through your installed games.
LINK

You've just proved my case... they didn't scan for porn

But seriously now, any game with an internet connection can do that but we trust that they don't. If there will be any proof that they scan the pc for games, I'll get every Ubi game ever made, as a pirate version, install all of them and delete them just to leave them in the registry. That should keep them busy

. Plus, without applying the cracks themselves, I'll still be perfectly Legal

Grothesj2 · 02-01-10, 04:59 PM

Don't think I'll be buying this long awaited game and I've owned every single Silent Hunter to date.

sabretwo · 02-01-10, 07:20 PM

I've been avoiding these threads for a few days, trying to cool down from all of this. But reading through the posts today, I keep seeing various posters referring to the DRM protest as if its an issue of choice. To all of those posters, please pay close attention to the following announcement:

FOR MANY OF US, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF PRINCIPLE! IT'S AN ISSUE OF PRACTICAL ACCESSIBILITY...TRAVEL, BAD INTERNET, PAY-PER-MB INTERNET, ETC!!!

PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS AS IF WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT IT!

UBI DECIDED TO SQUARELY EXCLUDE MANY OF US AS CUSTOMERS...NOT ALIENATE, BUT EXCLUDE!!!

(Okay, I feel better now...a little at least)

Brag · 02-01-10, 08:14 PM

Sabretwo, it just shows how ignorant Ubi people are.
I used to support Ubi, I will not support idiocy. Neither will many, yes, many.

Until they come to their senses, Ubi can listen to the silence of our wallets.

Mooooo!

Méo · 02-02-10, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabretwo

FOR MANY OF US, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF PRINCIPLE! IT'S AN ISSUE OF PRACTICAL ACCESSIBILITY...TRAVEL, BAD INTERNET, PAY-PER-MB INTERNET, ETC!!!

PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS AS IF WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT IT!

UBI DECIDED TO SQUARELY EXCLUDE MANY OF US AS CUSTOMERS...NOT ALIENATE, BUT EXCLUDE!!!

Funny, internet accessibility & reliability don't actually prevent 11.5 million people from playing World of Warcraft.

Steeltrap · 02-02-10, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Funny, internet accessibility & reliability don't actually prevent 11.5 million people from playing World of Warcraft.

Which is a MMORPG, which means it requires internet. Run by Blizzard on well-supported servers.

Now explain to me why a single player subsim needs internet connection, and why we think Ubi will provide effective server support in light of previous efforts.

Then we might have something to discuss.

Méo · 02-02-10, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Now explain to me why a single player subsim needs internet connection

Ubisoft should be the one who has to explain this... don't you think?

02-01-10, 02:27 PM	#647
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I'd like to just throw my two cents in here in hopes that Ubi does actually read these. (or any other devs/publishers) I don't like DRM. I'm not going to bother justifying it. If you use DRM on your game, there's a chance I'm just not gonna buy it. Signed, Your Customer __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

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KING111 Planesman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 181 Downloads: 245 Uploads: 0	h\\p://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21564 you may have to register on the site to see it but they are talking about pay as you go for storm of war the same as in rise of flight

02-01-10, 02:49 PM	#649
subsimlee Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	What a great way to force people to buy future games!!!! Simply shut down DRM server support for current sims and games....( that never crossed the minds of the Ubi suits....NNaaaaa 'course not! )

02-01-10, 03:17 PM	#650
KING111 Planesman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 181 Downloads: 245 Uploads: 0	Letun i may have been confused because they were comparing it to Rise Of Flight anyway if its got DRM i will not be buying it like lots of others on these site as for Ub reading these and giving a dame i don't think the do thats why the preiscope view looks so bad its simplified so beginners can play it without looking at the manual every five minutes

02-01-10, 03:34 PM	#651
OldFrenchy Mate Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 59 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I love the various simulations that have been produced, but as a matter of principle I cannot buy into online registration that requires an internet connection to play. That would make it a rental. Anyone familiar with the Amazon Kindle flap? The company sold online titles to download to the Kindle- digital books. One morning the owners woke up to find that Amazon had deleted the purchased content without authorization because the company had violated some copyright laws. Of course the company apologized after the customers rioted, but they did it nonetheless. Piracy is an issue, but WallEye is putting the spotlight on the problem. At what point do you start objecting to mindless intrusion by either governments or corporations? Benjamin Franklin said it best: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. " I. for one, will withhold purchasing this product until they come up with a better, less intrusive solution. OldFrenchy

02-01-10, 04:59 PM	#655
Grothesj2 Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't think I'll be buying this long awaited game and I've owned every single Silent Hunter to date.

02-01-10, 07:20 PM	#656
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	I've been avoiding these threads for a few days, trying to cool down from all of this. But reading through the posts today, I keep seeing various posters referring to the DRM protest as if its an issue of choice. To all of those posters, please pay close attention to the following announcement: FOR MANY OF US, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF PRINCIPLE! IT'S AN ISSUE OF PRACTICAL ACCESSIBILITY...TRAVEL, BAD INTERNET, PAY-PER-MB INTERNET, ETC!!! PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS AS IF WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT IT! UBI DECIDED TO SQUARELY EXCLUDE MANY OF US AS CUSTOMERS...NOT ALIENATE, BUT EXCLUDE!!! (Okay, I feel better now...a little at least)