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Old 02-01-10, 04:18 PM   #1
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Second thread like this in a week... Golden Rivet just had one pretty much the same tone.

What they dont realize... as you have stated.. these high taxation rates will not result in greater revenues it will merly drive business away or out of buisness... wheres your revenue then?
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Old 02-01-10, 04:26 PM   #2
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Anyone thinking about immigrating - all I can say is: avoid the EU at all cost, all states of it.

If I were 20 again, and would plan a life again and would have the ressources to support the move, I would leave the EU not only when wishing to found a family, but would leave anyway. Not sure where to go, US and Canada do not seem to be the option I once considered them to be after schooltime. Japan is a harsh place, and it's economical model is collapsing even faster than that of the US. Leaves me with Brazil, maybe (if I had money, at no cost I would need to live there when being poor), or SE Asia.

Anywhere - just away from the united dumbheadedness of Eurabia.
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Old 02-01-10, 04:54 PM   #3
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Maybe there is no place to live happily ever after.

I never hear Texans complaining, so we should all move to Texas
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Old 02-01-10, 05:59 PM   #4
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Monaco.
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Old 02-01-10, 06:45 PM   #5
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Yeah, gotta admit, things aren't that much better over here...probably worse in fact.

How about China or Saudi Arabia? I mean, they're going to rule the world eventually so you might as well get the early rates...
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Old 02-01-10, 08:13 PM   #6
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Two things you can count on in life:

1. death
2. taxes
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Old 02-03-10, 02:11 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=Skybird;1255020]Leaves me with Brazil, maybe (if I had money, at no cost I would need to live there when being poor), or SE Asia.

You should move to Puerto Rico Skybird.
( I stay in the Netherlands. )



Check out this list of the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World, based on a recent study.*

And if you fancy setting off on a quest for true happiness, our tip is to head for northern Europe…
Who is the Happiest of Them All?
1. Denmark
2. Finland
3. Netherlands
4. Sweden
5. Ireland
6. Canada
7. Switzerland
8. New Zealand
9. Norway
10. Belgium







Quess what? Al countrys with high taxes.
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Old 02-03-10, 11:00 PM   #8
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I still wanna know where Mothballs is going to go? Not criticizing, just curious.
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Old 02-03-10, 11:52 PM   #9
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Would be nice to know what are the tax rates in the "happiest" countries ...
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Old 02-04-10, 12:05 AM   #10
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I still wanna know where Mothballs is going to go? Not criticizing, just curious.
I'm still researching. It's a major decision, I don't do anything on impulse. I do need to decide soon. I found a good Realtor and I'm putting my house on the market Monday.

My brother gave me some good advice. He said: "Don't make the full commitment up front. Travel to the places you think you might want to live and spend a little time there. Then decide." Think it's good advice and I'll probably do that before making the final decision.
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Old 02-04-10, 01:03 AM   #11
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..........I’m a proud to be right wing 49 yr old black democrat... i.e. an American born, loving, feeling, angry, sad, liberal(socially) who love's the USA and its military.

Just a couple of rants of my own about where we're all at here in the good ol USA:

I follow history somewhat and believe in general we’ll all be okay

We need more Virginia’s & F-22’s

I love IL2-1946 & SH4

I pay taxes, I figure around 29% total when rounding out fed-state-ssec and misc local extras they pile on.

I don’t like paying but I’ve been doing it since my 1st job 33 yrs ago, funny huh, I’m used to it. I would like to think I’m getting my moneys worth but depending on the day of week or what or who i come across during the day, changes my opinion.

I make about 45k, own a home, have a wife & kids and a 401k from work and that’s about the extent of my financial knowledge.

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

I got debt but my heads above water.

My money doesn’t go as far as it did 10 years ago, is that real or not, I’m not sure but it seem that I pay more for less, ( have you looked at a cereal box lately?)

Liberals aren’t the end of the world
conserv's aren’t the end of the world

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

Obama isn’t satan just like Bush wasn’t, they're just men, possibly good men
Bush wasn’t satan just like Obama isn’t, they’re just men, possibly good men

Its the intolenerce, hate, bitching, complaining, I’m leaving, its somebody else’s fault and problem, I wont do it, I wont pay it, you cant make me, you cant stop me, get out of my way, what’s taking so long, I don’t want it, why cant I have it.............creed that’s poisoned our county against ourselves.

We blame welfare chiselers, tea baggers, defense industry workers, professors at college, Nancy p, Michelle B, Rush and big Ed Schultz, its bull*$*$, blame ourselves.

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

We don’t like to look in the mirror though, at least very long anywise.

Have you noticed the crappy roads? But nobody wants to pay

Were told our schools suck but, cut funding to balance budgets

Don’t throw money at it, spend it where it will do the best for all of us

Have you noticed the seeming lack of good earn a living, middle of the road, Jobs available so you can save a little and buy a car or house.

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

I recall Unions being blamed for a lot of Business\labor’s ills years ago but it seems there aren’t enough around, on average, now to blame, here and now

After a little sacrifice we used to be able to get ahead with determination and hard work.
We still can.

We never hear about what we can do, we only talk about what cant-wont-hate.

Our parents\grandparents came back from some pretty bad times\wars and decided that they could and would do what it takes to work, start a business, raise a family, and yes Pay TAXES.

All of the bitterness between us is selfish and destructive.

Nothing will ever get accomplish if we continue down this route

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

You can’t cut taxes and spending and make a prosperous nation in our current situation
You can’t raise taxes and spending and make a prosperous nation in our current situation.

We need to band together and meet in the mighty middle, with both right and left solving problems for the middle majority.

Neither can do it alone.

Stop hating on each other

I’m not leaving, I’m still going to work tomorrow and bring home .70 of my dollar earned, turn on my PC, scope out this forum, check my email, see what’s going on in the world, suck down a 2 finger scotch, and when the wife goes to bed, start another mission.

It’s great to be an American, despite the high and probably going higher taxes

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

Out!
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P.S. I guess that was more than a couple of rants, sorry
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Old 02-04-10, 10:03 AM   #12
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..........I’m a proud to be right wing 49 yr old black democrat... i.e. an American born, loving, feeling, angry, sad, liberal(socially) who love's the USA and its military.

Just a couple of rants of my own about where we're all at here in the good ol USA:
...................................

It’s great to be an American, despite the high and probably going higher taxes

I believe we’ll be okay, I not leaving or quitting

Out!
Spence

P.S. I guess that was more than a couple of rants, sorry
You made some great points, Spence.

Mothballs, be sure to take your brother's advice. Travel, stay a few weeks somewhere other than the USA. There are some really big adjustments you have to make. Not saying other countries are lame, but remember, we are used to this system, and it's no accident that this is ground zero for the world's motivated immigrants.

I'm sure the top happiest countries in that list, there are several with high tax rates. Is that what makes them happy? I dunno, but it would be a great place to retire on a pension and let their social services take care of you.
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Old 02-04-10, 10:15 AM   #13
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I think I have a pretty good suggestion for you Mothballs, that will also cost the less:

Come here to Spain for some months and watch how it all goes here. After that, you'll be dying to return to the US and give all the money in your wallet to Obama, trust me
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Old 02-04-10, 06:18 AM   #14
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Quess what? Al countrys with high taxes.
And a pretty small population.
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Old 02-04-10, 06:41 AM   #15
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Nicely said Spence
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