All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[Hitman]

Well speaking seriously it would be nice if the anti-DRM crowd could manage not to turn every single thread into a DRM bitching session.

Hey I think it's fair: Since SH5 needs permanent DRM connection to play the game, we also need permanent DRM critizism while connected to SH5 forums.

[stoneys-nutz]

Whilst i sympathise with you about the DRM issue creeping in to a lot of posts, it does point to the strength of feeling this piece of added software is generating, and if it makes UBI take a second look at this, then it will have been worth it.
Thats my two bobs worth.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Hey I think it's fair: Since SH5 needs permanent DRM connection to play the game, we also need permanent DRM critizism while connected to SH5 forums.

and for many it's the only reason to stay away from ordering SH5 atm. this a sad thing cause expectation and anticipation were great on my side .....

[IanC]

We're just human. Let us vent.

[Brag]

The DRMs of doom are drumming

There wouldn't be that much negative posts about SH5 or DRM if everyone agreed with nonsences DRM offers. But no somebody has to come up with the ideas like: "Hey DRM is good for you, your gamesaves will get even safer in UBI's servers" these lines just kills me. Heck nor I want this feature nor I need it. My PC is my castle and if I buy a game I want to have it ALL in my pc, without these internet conection conditions as a must to play career! It has been stupid idea from the very begining of it and will remain untill it dies. And everyone with common sense are able to realize that.
Moreover they think DRM provides a huge services like autoupdates! Wow what an achievement, like users couldn;t find and download patches themselves from ubi webpage. Again useless service IMO.

[TDK1044]

Smoke on the horizon, Sir.
What is it?
It looks like a server, Sir. VII class. sinking fast.
Anyone with it?
Stupid people, Sir. Hanging on for dear life with Network cables.
Range to target?
Unable to comply, Sir. That bug isn't fixed yet.
How do we sink it?
Just give it time, Sir. It will sink on its own.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by zulus

There wouldn't be that much negative posts about SH5 or DRM if everyone agreed with nonsences DRM offers. But no somebody has to come up with the ideas like: "Hey DRM is good for you, your gamesaves will get even safer in UBI's servers" these lines just kills me. Heck nor I want this feature nor I need it. My PC is my castle and if I buy a game I want to have it ALL in my pc, without these internet conection conditions as a must to play career! It has been stupid idea from the very begining of it and will remain untill it dies. And everyone with common sense are able to realize that.
Moreover they think DRM provides a huge services like autoupdates! Wow what an achievement, like users couldn;t find and download patches themselves from ubi webpage. Again useless service IMO.

[Egan]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Smoke on the horizon, Sir.
What is it?
It looks like a server, Sir. VII class. sinking fast.
Anyone with it?
Stupid people, Sir. Hanging on for dear life with Network cables.
Range to target?
Unable to comply, Sir. That bug isn't fixed yet.
How do we sink it?
Just give it time, Sir. It will sink on its own.

Lol! I'm putting that on a t-shirt! Best thing I've read all day!

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Letum

We'r going nowhere until things change.

How about you head off the the Ubi-forums. Might be your kinda place.

Yep, i ll stay here, untill i see things change.
The Platform is great the marketing seems to suck.

Grmpf

[Lt commander lare]

i agree with all the others we here at subsim are united in our stance on this subject NO Drm and we want offline option back on the table and we are staying put until we get some compensation for this and by the way neal is right the pirates are to blame for this as well as ubisoft but ubisoft also has the power to change things and they will or no buy

lt commander lare

[SteamWake]

Sure take your uncomfortable dissenting voices elsewhere

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

The online-all-the-time and drop-anytime DRM topic is new and significant, so for the time being multiple threads is fine. After a while, I'm sure everyone will agree that the topic can be discussed in a few threads.

I do smile, though, through all the posts about this, that no one ever damns the pirates, both pro and casual.

That is because we know that Ubi reads this and they get our cash.

Pirates, to the dum guy like me, are hiding in the masses, and i can not put a name on them.

One name, one Target.

If i knew a group of hackers or crackers or such, i would name them and pull out the verbal Machinegun...

Sux to be ubi.

And, i hope you pardon me, but stuff like nocd cracks, i do not care much about. As an honest user, they add a sense of comfort for me.
People that put the stuff on torrent sites or something, these are the rats and bastards of the gaming world to me.

But, they do not provide me with a game, so why shall i talk about pirates and hackers?

[Nicolas]

I think not, becuase if enough people doens't like this, or not buying because of this, it's good to make noise so they can know a lot disagree with this DRM.

[piri_reis]

Ah
another blind believer, go on and see it as you please mate.

Originally Posted by Jaeger

dont confound online play and drm. drm only means, they will save your data on data servers. like cloud computing. office 2007 uses it, each email account is in the internet etc. cloud computing (means to save your data on internet servers) is savier than saving on your harddrive, which will be killed 2 times a year. cloud computing is the future, google has developed a whole system, which runs your software from internet. no hard disk needed anymore. and remember: they only get your ip, not your name! they can do market research (that is why they are doing this, piracy is an alibi here). remember google: they know everything about you!