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Old 01-28-10, 07:34 PM   #1
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Only one thing works with executive suite of a company--money.

Spread the word to other gamers and vote with your wallet.

It is too early to tell if our protest has yet gone viral. But stuff that affects gamers around the world (not only us) will spread.

Ubi is in the same position of Von Paulus at the beginning of tf the battle os Stalingrad. He didn't realize how pissed off the Russian people where.

nearly 80% of Subsimmers are outraged. Other gamers are, too. We'll take the fight right into the Ubi bunker, if needed


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Old 01-28-10, 08:12 PM   #2
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Only one thing works with executive suite of a company--money.

Spread the word to other gamers and vote with your wallet.

It is too early to tell if our protest has yet gone viral. But stuff that affects gamers around the world (not only us) will spread.
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I think it already is. I spoke with my IT manager on my way out of the office today. He's not a subsimmer, but he is a very active gamer and keeps an eye on what's going on in the gaming industry. According to him, EVERYONE (industry mags, broad industry news sites, blogs, etc.) is in an uproar over this!

If the outrage is that far and wide, I have a feeling that UBI is making a monumental business mistake.

There are quite a few folks like me who are pushed out on this because of lack of continuous connectivity. (An issue of practical access to the game because of geography, travel, time and place of play habits, etc.). But an even larger percentage of the outrage seems to be on issues of principle...That is the kind of anger that goes viral!

I wonder how much research UBI did before implementing this decision? Smart companies usually do very careful research on this type of thing before making such radical decisions.

I might be wrong, but I see this as a possible ticking time bomb for UBI. Time of detonation: Fiscal Q2 2010! (Sell that stock now kids before its too late!!!!)
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Old 01-28-10, 08:30 PM   #3
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But an even larger percentage of the outrage seems to be on issues of principle...That is the kind of anger that goes viral!

yep!
this is the main issue.
nobody can expect me to let him/her into my house, if I dont like to. why should it be different with PC-games?
I don't even consider to activate an account with UBI because I don't like to and don't like to be forced to.
therefore I just can't buy the game and will stick to SH3/GWX3
no regret!
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Old 01-28-10, 08:51 PM   #4
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I was checking up on the Internet. Man, they are really ripping this DRM stuff over at Eurogamer....
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Old 01-28-10, 09:15 PM   #5
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I was checking up on the Internet. Man, they are really ripping this DRM stuff over at Eurogamer....
The internet is abuzz. Standing at the cutting edge where a game is to be released, we are just the front rank of the opposition to DRM/OSP. We have millions, yes, millions of backers!

Who is the giant, Ubi or our ideals?
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Old 01-28-10, 09:19 PM   #6
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Who is the giant, Ubi or our ideals?
Our ideals!!! *pumps his pitchfork in the air
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Old 01-28-10, 09:28 PM   #7
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One other concern: Ubisoft’s authentication servers aren’t guaranteed for life, and 10 years from now, players could be shut out of the game they bought. In fact, last time Ubisoft tried online authentication with Assassin’s Creed, some players had trouble immediately after purchasing.
http://technologizer.com/2010/01/27/...t-play-online/
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Old 01-29-10, 03:47 AM   #8
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Well waddya know!
No surprise there.
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Old 01-30-10, 06:41 PM   #9
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I was checking up on the Internet. Man, they are really ripping this DRM stuff over at Eurogamer....
I did a general Google last night - they're ripping into it everywhere; in most of the upcoming game forums!

Funny in a sense, because the threads are exactly the same as here, with the same arguments, same counter-arguments etc and so forth.
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Old 01-30-10, 07:12 PM   #10
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I just downloaded the ROF demo and played it with DRM and it really wasn't that much different then without it.

I don't know, I'm starting to think we don't want it because it has become the norm of the forum to see negative.

I have to trust on a stable internet connection to a server somewhere in someplace everyday for our corp email and ISP to work. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to get on the internet everyday. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to be here and posting everyday.

I'm changing my view and buying SH5 with or without DRM. I just hope that it makes a difference on piracy so we can have some great games to come in the future.

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Old 01-30-10, 07:13 PM   #11
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Funny in a sense, because the threads are exactly the same as here, with the same arguments, same counter-arguments etc and so forth.
Are those arguments based on something concrete?

I didn't see all comments in every threads here, but that's what it seems to be missing here, IMO.

What I would like to see is some CONCRETE EVIDENCE that DRM used in other games was a failure (cause we cannot base our reasoning on a game that we haven't tested yet).

I guess I'm not learning you anything new when I say that things like:
I don't want to, I hate it, it's crap, etc. are not evidence.

The thing is that I would like to be objectively convinced by some real evidence, links, you know...

It's kinda boring to see only expression of anger...

At the risk to agree once again with you.
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Old 01-30-10, 07:22 PM   #12
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this gentleman right here said something INDICATING it does not do the game any good.
But no numbers.
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Old 01-30-10, 08:29 PM   #13
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Are those arguments based on something concrete?
Nup, at least nothing that I could find. You could just as well take any thread here and replace SH5 with <insert game name>.

Pretty much lots of and oodles of and
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