If you dont like the online DRM...

[karamazovnew]

You're wrong GR. On nr. 3, if you loose net connection the game freezes and waits. If you quit, you can only load the last save, wherever it may have been. We don't know yet if we can then save offline and upload the save to the server.

But the big deal for me is that right now I spend 3-4 days a week away from home. I travel a lot on trains that have electrical sockets, but no net. I can play SH3 just fine on my laptop but I won't be able to play SH5. Sure I could play it at home if I weren't too busy "giving flowers" to my girlfriend. Oh well, SH3 it is then...

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

You're wrong GR. On nr. 3, if you loose net connection the game freezes and waits. If you quit, you can only load the last save, wherever it may have been.

source, because thats not what i read at ubi.

GR I wish you luck but I'm affraid you won't change the tide much. Ppl actually don't want to be attached to internet when they play career and furthermore they don;t want to be dependent from internet connectivity since this might and will interfere with natural gameplay. I deffinetly don't want the game to be paused if I suddenly loose ic. This makes no sence at all.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by zulus

GR I wish you luck but I'm affraid you won't change the tide much. Ppl actually don't want to be attached to internet when they play career and furthermore they don;t want to be dependent from internet connectivity since this might and will interfere with natural gameplay. I deffinetly don't want the game to be paused if I suddenly loose ic. This makes no sence at all.

Im one of those people who doesnt wish to be attached to the internet when i play in career mode either.

Dont get me wrong, im not all "feel good" about the DRM myself... but i think it is Much Ado About Nothing, and i think that for the most part, players wont even realize its active.

its just a sea of endless complaints - and i find it highly unlikely that ubi is going to change course based on our desires and demands.

[GoldenRivet]

Sad really.

perhaps ubisoft should just abort? forget about the project?

[Kapitanleutnant]

Maybe they should.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

perhaps ubisoft should just abort? forget about the project?

If a publisher wants to force me into tying an offline-singleplayer game to an online service which may well restrict my legal usage of said product and in addition makes it basically impossible to re-sell the product, yes.

[Lanzfeld]

Don't be a fool. You have to be able to see that this is just the first step in making us pay a monthly fee to keep the servers up and running. It is just the way these guys work nowadays. It is about nothing more then $$$.

But besides that, I simply do not WANT to be on the internet while I play a game. Period. This is a leash. They can keep the game. Really. All of us can be happy doing other things like improving SH3 even more or, with luck, another subsim will pop up one day.

[guynoir]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Sad really.

perhaps ubisoft should just abort? forget about the project?

You can go ahead and call me "Ubisoft" because I'm about this close || to doing what you suggested...

My uncle won't be able to make that choice since he's stuck with a terrible modem connection out in the country... Ubi made it for him.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Im one of those people who doesnt wish to be attached to the internet when i play in career mode either.

Dont get me wrong, im not all "feel good" about the DRM myself... but i think it is Much Ado About Nothing, and i think that for the most part, players wont even realize its active.

its just a sea of endless complaints - and i find it highly unlikely that ubi is going to change course based on our desires and demands.

You make some valid points, GR. Ironically, I think the biggest hit will be felt right here. These are not "I'm taking my ball and going home" cries we're hearing here. Many members will not purchase Silent Hunter V. If a few of the more experienced modders are among those choosing not to purchase, then the effect here will be noticable.

You'll see the same level of discontent at the Ubi Forum and others.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Im one of those people who doesnt wish to be attached to the internet when i play in career mode either.

Dont get me wrong, im not all "feel good" about the DRM myself... but i think it is Much Ado About Nothing, and i think that for the most part, players wont even realize its active.

its just a sea of endless complaints - and i find it highly unlikely that ubi is going to change course based on our desires and demands.

Nop. This is a high time for UBI to open their eyes and ears and listen what subsim lovers are asking for.As you know popularity of submarine simulations aren't that high but it seems they just keep pushing it to make it even smaller ? If they think DRM will protect their software from piracy they are so damned wrong.. Show me at least one protected game that wasn't cracked ? Ppl aren't braindead and they will always find solutions to avoid unnecessary procedures that makes entertainment so complicated or unacceptable from their POW. Simple as that, f.e. motivate me. why should I waste my money, then time registering my account then having headaches if my internet connection is lost or subsim server is down when I was about to attack the convoy if instead I can find a "light" version in the web to download and have no disruptions when I least want them ?