[QUE] Boycott / mass dynamic things not allowed? - Page 3

longam · 01-26-10, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Exactly....so why the need for censorship?

See Post #28

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Exactly....so why the need for censorship?

Editorial stance.

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch.

Ha ha.

goldorak · 01-26-10, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch.

Shhhhhhhhhhh you might get censored for telling the truth.

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

See Post #28

because the buck stops at Neal's desk

thats the reason

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

Shhhhhhhhhhh you might get censored for telling the truth.

Hmmm... cheap shots now, Golderak?

kemeri · 01-26-10, 06:36 PM

I don't see any significant reason to boycott the game.
I'll buy it

Takeda Shingen · 01-26-10, 06:38 PM

You know, the site owner has given his explaination. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but snide remarks and childish behavior demean us all. I like to believe that we are all above that here.

martes86 · 01-26-10, 06:44 PM

My full support to Neal's decisions. I know they're being specially tough regarding the latest conversations around here.

JU_88 · 01-26-10, 06:50 PM

Maybe its because boycotts of this kind simply dont work anyway.

Look at it though Ubis eyes.

There have been calls to 'boycott' just about every new release on every forum of every sucessful game franchise where expectations are high. Whats going on here with SHV is no different.

Even if a Publisher the size of Ubi really wanted to pay attention to our little niche (0.1% of the market) corner of the web, a boycott would be unlikely to phase them.
If someone is not going to buy a product then they will not be staging a protest to see improvements made to it.
Boycott threats just means you care, it even demonstrates you are fanatical, which probabaly means you are still going to buy it anyway.
And even if you dont... the other 99.9% will so its no big deal.

IMHO, Indifference and non-intreast would scare a Large Publisher a hell of alot more than a protest.
In the creative industries a bad reaction is better than no reaction.

Méo · 01-26-10, 07:18 PM

Not allowed? you don't get it?

Ok, no offence to anyone here, but all this sounds so silly to me.

I really don't think it's about Ubisoft, I think it's about any publisher/developer of any submarine simulation.

What I understand from subsim.com is that it promotes, shares and give news about any submarine simulations.

If I was the owner of this site and if I wanted this place to grow, I don't think it would be very clever to be associated with a boycott of any publisher/developer (it could be hard later on to have some privileged info...).

BTW it's not like if there were so many submarine simulations on the market right now...

Platapus · 01-26-10, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

its guilt by association thing so we must remain objective and not seen to promote a protest

Is it guilt by association when the General Topics forum is full of right wing nutters posting crap? Of course not. So why would it be guilt by association if people vent here about a game.

I think people need to get a more realistic viewpoint of this website. We are really not that important. We are just a bunch of game lovers posting our opinions on an internet forum. I doubt anyone outside of this website takes the opinions posted here seriously... nor should they.

I think it is hubris to think that posts need to be censured because of any association with the website.

AOTD_MadMax · 01-26-10, 08:10 PM

Wow,

nearly the same discussion like in german forum.

I will buy it to get the full information about the crap.
We need a base, more arguments for being active in things like "boykott" !

At this time the informations are not tight enough for this "nuclear weapon".
I agree with Neal.
But when it is tested out, one week after release, we have this option if SH5 is more crap we think about it yet.
The only thing we have to do is wait cause the time is working for us, not for the devs.
They have to work against the time............

Best Regards

AOTD|MadMax

Méo · 01-26-10, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think people need to get a more realistic viewpoint of this website. We are really not that important.

With more than 40 000 members (without counting those who come here and who are not members) this website might be more important than you think.

ETR3(SS) · 01-26-10, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

With more than 40 000 members (without counting those who come here and who are not members) this website might be more important than you think.

With 6 billion people in the world we are truly an insignificant spec in the internet.

IanC · 01-26-10, 09:42 PM

40 000?? How come I only see the same 10 people all the time

01-26-10, 07:18 PM	#40
Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Not allowed? you don't get it? Not allowed? you don't get it? Ok, no offence to anyone here, but all this sounds so silly to me. I really don't think it's about Ubisoft, I think it's about any publisher/developer of any submarine simulation. What I understand from subsim.com is that it promotes, shares and give news about any submarine simulations. If I was the owner of this site and if I wanted this place to grow, I don't think it would be very clever to be associated with a boycott of any publisher/developer (it could be hard later on to have some privileged info...). BTW it's not like if there were so many submarine simulations on the market right now...

01-26-10, 08:10 PM	#42
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Wow, nearly the same discussion like in german forum. I will buy it to get the full information about the crap. We need a base, more arguments for being active in things like "boykott" ! At this time the informations are not tight enough for this "nuclear weapon". I agree with Neal. But when it is tested out, one week after release, we have this option if SH5 is more crap we think about it yet. The only thing we have to do is wait cause the time is working for us, not for the devs. They have to work against the time............ Best Regards AOTD\|MadMax __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

01-26-10, 06:36 PM	#36
kemeri Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I don't see any significant reason to boycott the game. I'll buy it

01-26-10, 06:38 PM	#37
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	You know, the site owner has given his explaination. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but snide remarks and childish behavior demean us all. I like to believe that we are all above that here.

01-26-10, 06:44 PM	#38
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	My full support to Neal's decisions. I know they're being specially tough regarding the latest conversations around here.

01-26-10, 06:50 PM	#39
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,813 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Maybe its because boycotts of this kind simply dont work anyway. Look at it though Ubis eyes. There have been calls to 'boycott' just about every new release on every forum of every sucessful game franchise where expectations are high. Whats going on here with SHV is no different. Even if a Publisher the size of Ubi really wanted to pay attention to our little niche (0.1% of the market) corner of the web, a boycott would be unlikely to phase them. If someone is not going to buy a product then they will not be staging a protest to see improvements made to it. Boycott threats just means you care, it even demonstrates you are fanatical, which probabaly means you are still going to buy it anyway. And even if you dont... the other 99.9% will so its no big deal. IMHO, Indifference and non-intreast would scare a Large Publisher a hell of alot more than a protest. In the creative industries a bad reaction is better than no reaction.

01-26-10, 09:42 PM	#45
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	40 000?? How come I only see the same 10 people all the time