Why are so many professors tagged as liberals? - Page 2

Buddahaid · 01-21-10, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

How comes that such people are even allowed to go to college? I mean a college is something like a university, right? Here you have to have a high school graduation or a lower one and a completed vocational training.
One won't get any of that if one can't read properly!
Are there no such requirements for US colleges?

Of course. You must apply and be accepted to most. The problem is a high school diploma can be "earned" with barely the skills to get through college now. Some colleges even insist on remedial study for courses a student is too weak in. They want you to graduate and not waste their time, or keep other students who would graduate from finding a slot.

But hey, if you can kick a ball real good, they'll bend over backwards to get you graduated. Special tutoring and such.

frau kaleun · 01-21-10, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

How comes that such people are even allowed to go to college? I mean a college is something like a university, right? Here you have to have a high school graduation or a lower one and a completed vocational training.
One won't get any of that if one can't read properly!
Are there no such requirements for US colleges?

Lol. Supposedly, yes.

I worked as a teacher's assistant for my English teacher my last year of high school. She also taught English at one campus of the local university, which although small is considered a pretty fine institution. One of my jobs was to do preliminary proofreading and marking of errors on the papers turned in by her students, not just what the other high school kids were writing but her college level students as well.

It was an eye-opener, lemme tell you! Of course how much of what I saw had to do with a student's intelligence, comprehension, and ability rather than an unwillingness to put any real effort into doing the the work, I can't say. Nevertheless, I was frequently appalled.

In my current job I often get official publications from companies with whom we do business that are, presumably, written by people whose JOB it is to create such things. I am still frequently appalled.

01-21-10, 08:23 PM

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sometimes i think you should have to be over 25 to vote.

So in the interests of no taxation without representation can them youngsters be exempt from tax

August · 01-21-10, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

If I paid for a class and the instructor did a 15-20 minute campain speech for either canidate I would want my money back.

Yeah talking politics especially is a big no no for Teachers. That would get me fired darn quick.

Platapus · 01-21-10, 09:13 PM

It may also be a case of perception.

If I had to categorize my college instructors into one group, I would say most of them were moderate.

So if you were conservative, you might perceive them as being liberal.
If you were liberal, you might perceive them as conservative.

I find the more time I spend in academia the more moderate I become and I notice it also in my fellow students as well as the faculty.

TheBrauerHour · 01-21-10, 09:25 PM

I am a Social Studies teacher and I talk politics all the time. It would be a shame not to and I would miss many teaching opportunities.

The trick is to present both sides, and not try to steer the conversation to one side or another. For example, if a student mentions something they saw or read from an obviously liberal source, I ask them to visit a conservative source and tell me how the viewpoints differ on that specific issue.

The very last thing I do is then ask them what they feel about it...and if anyone in the class would like to respectfully disagree. Inevitably the class will ask what I think, and I take the opportunity to tell them that the issues being discussed are of the highest importance and I have the views I do because oh look pop quiz on chapter 12!

Many, and I mean MANY, of my colleagues are extreme liberals. I also have a couple of colleagues who are VERY conservative. Being in the breakroom can get very interesting, lol. There have been times where students peek in because the heated debates can be heard in the hallway. My experience is that the profession of education is indeed controlled by liberals, and to truly get ahead you have to "play the game" and avoid discussing issues that get uncomfortable because even middle of the road people like me are labeled as horrible people if we disagree with the liberal view of things.

In college, I learned to agree with the professors and I would get an A...any student who didn't subscribe to the doctrine was given horrible assignments for their field work and student teaching. I have kept my head clean, and in the 3 years I have been teaching I have been given one of the most sought after teaching assignments, and have been appointed to mentor new teachers because "I treat people fair." One of the teachers I am assigned to mentor curses like a sailor and stated that all men and the Catholic church are the worst things in the world. God help me...

August · 01-21-10, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBrauerHour

One of the teachers I am assigned to mentor curses like a sailor and stated that all men and the Catholic church are the worst things in the world. God help me...

Offer to have a priest perform an exorcism just in case that's what's ailing her.

01-21-10, 09:13 PM	#20
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,393 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It may also be a case of perception. If I had to categorize my college instructors into one group, I would say most of them were moderate. So if you were conservative, you might perceive them as being liberal. If you were liberal, you might perceive them as conservative. I find the more time I spend in academia the more moderate I become and I notice it also in my fellow students as well as the faculty. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-21-10, 09:25 PM	#21
TheBrauerHour Mr. Eastwood Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I am a Social Studies teacher and I talk politics all the time. It would be a shame not to and I would miss many teaching opportunities. The trick is to present both sides, and not try to steer the conversation to one side or another. For example, if a student mentions something they saw or read from an obviously liberal source, I ask them to visit a conservative source and tell me how the viewpoints differ on that specific issue. The very last thing I do is then ask them what they feel about it...and if anyone in the class would like to respectfully disagree. Inevitably the class will ask what I think, and I take the opportunity to tell them that the issues being discussed are of the highest importance and I have the views I do because oh look pop quiz on chapter 12! Many, and I mean MANY, of my colleagues are extreme liberals. I also have a couple of colleagues who are VERY conservative. Being in the breakroom can get very interesting, lol. There have been times where students peek in because the heated debates can be heard in the hallway. My experience is that the profession of education is indeed controlled by liberals, and to truly get ahead you have to "play the game" and avoid discussing issues that get uncomfortable because even middle of the road people like me are labeled as horrible people if we disagree with the liberal view of things. In college, I learned to agree with the professors and I would get an A...any student who didn't subscribe to the doctrine was given horrible assignments for their field work and student teaching. I have kept my head clean, and in the 3 years I have been teaching I have been given one of the most sought after teaching assignments, and have been appointed to mentor new teachers because "I treat people fair." One of the teachers I am assigned to mentor curses like a sailor and stated that all men and the Catholic church are the worst things in the world. God help me...