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Old 01-21-10, 04:19 PM   #1
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let me tell you this...

when i was just starting my business in 2008 i decided to take a few classes at the local community college to not only exercise my mind but develop some needed skills.

this was the fall session, right when the whole McCaine / Obama stuff was heated up.

Every class opened with a 15 - 20 minute BS session about why us kids need to vote for Obama, or why us kids need to vote for McCain.

now... i walked into that class at nearly 30 years old, so i didnt care for the down speak.

secondly, most of those kids i shared the classroom with were not 18 or 19 years old and have not learned about the world around them yet.

i would wager that the drive across town to get to the campus was probably the furthest they had ventured out into the world.

i didnt appreciate the attempt to sway these kids in either direction by professors and found it to be disturbing and unprofessional, i got the feeling that "most of you are too young to make the right choice so im going to help you make it."

aside from that, most of those voting age kids were so wrapped up in their naivety that they actually believed the whole Hope and Change crap!!!

personally, sometimes i think you should have to be over 25 to vote.

some of those kids, fresh out of high school, some of them i swear to God could barely read... let alone help decide the direction our entire nation should take for the next 4 years.

One of them was reading the preamble to the constitution aloud and couldn't figure out either how to pronounce Tranquility... nor articulate a response as to what the word actually meant!!!
If I paid for a class and the instructor did a 15-20 minute campain speech for either canidate I would want my money back.
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Old 01-21-10, 08:55 PM   #2
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If I paid for a class and the instructor did a 15-20 minute campain speech for either canidate I would want my money back.
Yeah talking politics especially is a big no no for Teachers. That would get me fired darn quick.
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Old 01-21-10, 09:13 PM   #3
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It may also be a case of perception.

If I had to categorize my college instructors into one group, I would say most of them were moderate.

So if you were conservative, you might perceive them as being liberal.
If you were liberal, you might perceive them as conservative.

I find the more time I spend in academia the more moderate I become and I notice it also in my fellow students as well as the faculty.
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Old 01-21-10, 09:25 PM   #4
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I am a Social Studies teacher and I talk politics all the time. It would be a shame not to and I would miss many teaching opportunities.

The trick is to present both sides, and not try to steer the conversation to one side or another. For example, if a student mentions something they saw or read from an obviously liberal source, I ask them to visit a conservative source and tell me how the viewpoints differ on that specific issue.

The very last thing I do is then ask them what they feel about it...and if anyone in the class would like to respectfully disagree. Inevitably the class will ask what I think, and I take the opportunity to tell them that the issues being discussed are of the highest importance and I have the views I do because oh look pop quiz on chapter 12!

Many, and I mean MANY, of my colleagues are extreme liberals. I also have a couple of colleagues who are VERY conservative. Being in the breakroom can get very interesting, lol. There have been times where students peek in because the heated debates can be heard in the hallway. My experience is that the profession of education is indeed controlled by liberals, and to truly get ahead you have to "play the game" and avoid discussing issues that get uncomfortable because even middle of the road people like me are labeled as horrible people if we disagree with the liberal view of things.

In college, I learned to agree with the professors and I would get an A...any student who didn't subscribe to the doctrine was given horrible assignments for their field work and student teaching. I have kept my head clean, and in the 3 years I have been teaching I have been given one of the most sought after teaching assignments, and have been appointed to mentor new teachers because "I treat people fair." One of the teachers I am assigned to mentor curses like a sailor and stated that all men and the Catholic church are the worst things in the world. God help me...
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One of the teachers I am assigned to mentor curses like a sailor and stated that all men and the Catholic church are the worst things in the world. God help me...
Offer to have a priest perform an exorcism just in case that's what's ailing her.
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