wolfpacks in or out?

[Letum]

Originally Posted by looney

Actually I think that is precise how wolfpacks worked.

Certainly not.

In the happy times boats would communicate with Bdu (and hence other
boats via friendly interception) and Bdu would coordinate other boats to
stalk convoys. Attack orders where also given by Bdu and one boat
was generally ordered not to attack, but to send regular position reports.

There where some two dozen organized attacks like this in 42 involving
5-20 u-boats. The attacks often lasted several days or even a week or
more.

The point is; these where successful because they where organized and
involved communication. This is what SHV's AI encounters will not
include.

A wolf-pack without organizational and communication is no pack at all.

[longam]

Originally Posted by Letum

Certainly not.

In the happy times boats would communicate with Bdu (and hence other
boats via friendly interception) and Bdu would coordinate other boats to
stalk convoys. Attack orders where also given by Bdu and one boat
was generally ordered not to attack, but to send regular position reports.

There where some two dozen organized attacks like this in 42 involving
5-20 u-boats. The attacks often lasted several days or even a week or
more.

The point is; these where successful because they where organized and
involved communication. This is what SHV's AI encounters will not
include.

A wolf-pack without organizational and communication is no pack at all.

But according to the interview this actually happens just without the communication part. You just have to be in the area where the WP are in and hang or shadow.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by longam

But according to the interview this actually happens just without the communication part. You just have to be in the area where the WP are in and hang or shadow.

I'll wager that with some modding, these communications can be simulated

[kptn_kaiserhof]

wolfpack!!!
wolfpack!!!
wolfpack!!!

[finchOU]

I guess what I'm interested in is:

1. how these AI boats "get to the scene". Spawn...or are they actaully in certain areas and tavel to the Convoy.

2. What kind of Tactics they employ...and how the allied AI responds?

3. Will shadowing (aka constant position reports of the convey) effect how AI uboats 'get to the scene'.

4. are there novice and vetern ai subs...(aka different skill levels?)

5. what happens after attacking? do they go home?

this could be very interesting...or very dull.

[Méo]

Dan: We definitely have AI U-boats in the game. The level of interaction with them right now is limited, but there is a role for them in the campaign, so basically they will help the player accomplish his goals, but that is all I can say about it right now.

IMHO, The true question now is:

right now is limited ... will it be possible to modify this to get something like this:

Originally Posted by Letum

In the happy times boats would communicate with Bdu (and hence other
boats via friendly interception) and Bdu would coordinate other boats to
stalk convoys. Attack orders where also given by Bdu and one boat
was generally ordered not to attack, but to send regular position reports.

There where some two dozen organized attacks like this in 42 involving
5-20 u-boats. The attacks often lasted several days or even a week or
more.

The point is; these where successful because they where organized and
involved communication. This is what SHV's AI encounters will not
include.

A wolf-pack without organizational and communication is no pack at all.

I wanna live a night (in the game) like this! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy_SC_7

[Lanzfeld]

My best Hedi Klum: "Wolfpacks are out!, er...kinda."

Think Project Runway....my wife makes me watch it.

[THE_MASK]

I think this is how wolfpacks in SH5 will work . If you are prepared to shadow a convoy then there will be a % chance that you will see or hear wolf pack activity if you happen to be in a wolf pack area . I wouldnt imagine that the AI sub would have to be modelled as you would never see them anyway .

[Méo]

Originally Posted by sober

If you are prepared to shadow a convoy then there will be a % chance that you will see or hear wolf pack activity if you happen to be in a wolf pack area .

At least I hope it will wait for darkness to attack.

[fromhell]

my hunch is that wolfpacks in the correct and historical meening, will come later as an addon.

[urfisch]

as stated before there are wolfpacks, who act independently - also with firing torpedos. and if there are boats near your position, and you will report contacts, you might see them attack. but thats all. no communication, no interaction.

i wonder, how modable this feature will be. beside the lined "dynamic campaign"...

[Lanzfeld]

My take on wolfpacks from the info I have seen so far:

1. They will not wait until dark to attack. They will probably attack when the convoy stumbles on them.

2. How smart will they be in attack? 90 degree AOB or zero degree AOB? Multiple targets/multiple attacks?

3. Not sure how they will react after the attack. Will they evade well? Surface? Head home?