Getting a 'sinking' feeling about SH5

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

I'm not really Dan, I'm just a "virtual actor" paid to behave like a smarter version of him.

I think of you, Mihai and GreyOctober as Athos, Porthos and Aramis, Dan. Three lunatics riding around on horses shouting "All for one. One for all. Show me the money! We've worked our asses off. Where's our money?!

Neal of course is d'Artagnan....chasing after you on a pre-owned donkey shouting "where's our game?"

[GreyOctober]

Sorry, im playing Richelieu, i dont know about the others

[Navarre]

Some German gaming sites report today, Ubisoft openly considering a version of SH5 for consoles, because the industry had changed and consoles could be the future of gaming.

[GreyOctober]

Originally Posted by Navarre

Some German gaming sites report today, Ubisoft openly considering a version of SH5 for consoles, because the industry had changed and consoles could be the future of gaming.

Link please?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Whatever my opinion has been of Ubisoft as a publisher over the years, my respect for Dan, Mihai and the others is huge. These guys have gone above and beyond for the Silent Hunter Series.

Dan and Mihai should both be honorary recipients of the Best Of Subsim avatar.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Originally Posted by elanaiba

I'm not really Dan, I'm just a "virtual actor" paid to behave like a smarter version of him.

Likewise, GreyOctober is another virtual actor. His role is a "silly version of Dan".

I'm glad to see you're keeping your great sense of humor through all this.

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I think of you, Mihai and GreyOctober as Athos, Porthos and Aramis, Dan. Three lunatics riding around on horses shouting "All for one. One for all. Show me the money! We've worked our asses off. Where's our money?!

Neal of course is d'Artagnan....chasing after you on a pre-owned donkey shouting "where's our game?"

So Dan is a bitter but wise man with a tragic past, whose main goal in life is to drink himself into oblivion.

Mihai is a friendly but not-to-bright giant who follows a rough crowd because he doesn't know any better, and will die because of his friend's treason.

Grey October is ambitious beyond his capabilities, dreams of becoming a simple priest but will ultimately try to take over the world, all the while wishing he could go back to his old life, and whose best friend will die cursing him.

And poor Neal, the ingenue who may well be the best ever at what he does, but is doomed to a life of mediocrity, can only rise to his full measure by throwing in with his enemies, and will die on the very day he achieves his fondest goal.

Sorry, I know you weren't being that literal, but the simile was so much fun I couldn't help myself.

[TDK1044]

Neal's pre-owned donkey makes up for any short comings, Steve.

[Sailor Steve]

But did he buy it at AliBabaJimbuna's camel shop?

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But did he buy it at AliBabaJimbuna's camel shop?

He stole it while AliBabaJimbuna was out back measuring the distance his farts could travel after a bad curry.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

so don't we have a right to rise our voice

When would be the right time to rise our voices? In March2010... when Dan is less tired?

I've said it before I'll say it again...

It's not about the right to rise your voice or not, it's about every time something is release, lot of people here are jumping to conclusions, panicing, saying it's a failure, and blablabla...

[Adriatico]

Today is 11.01.2010 ( if you haven't noticed )
... so I would strongly suggest to open a new thread named "personality and biography of Dan and Mihai" with a full respect to their credits - as creators of all this "subsim environment"

...and show some min. respect towards thread owner Nimmo55 and his topic ...and rest of "simualtion lunitics" - that are more interested in final shape of upcoming SHV ...than in your personal feelings and memories

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Nimmo55

Ok..call me a worry wart...fine. I'll wear that. But I gotta tell you I'm getting a little worried about SH5. I saw the interview with the lead developer...he's saying thngs like don't want people to have to study a book to enjoy SH5 (alarm bells right there going off...)...and I saw the pereiscope screen a couple of posts up...Yikes!! I really hope that isn't what they intend to put in SH5. It looks cartoony and frnakly, crappy. Little things like this make me wonder if they are going to ruin SH5 (from my perspective of course...who loves realism and simulation.) If it is like that, I certainly won't be buying it first up..I'll wait and see what the word is on these forums and wait and see if the talented modders can do something with it. But I hope I'm worrying for nothing...

Nimmo55

I think the game will be a graphically enhanced version of SHIV (1.5) with a first person perspective and a few bells and whistles. I think the in game options will allow it to be dumbed down to a greater degree than previous Silent Hunter games, and I believe that most of those options can be turned off or modded out.

So instead of worrying and or speculating, why not just wait for it to be released and assess it then.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But did he buy it at AliBabaJimbuna's camel shop?

Hey...dogs, llamas, camels are all available .....for an appropriate consideration.

[paul_kingtiger]

The message I get about the difficulty / realism is that they want to make it accessible to non-simmers.

That could either mean it's going to be arcadey.
Or it will have a comprehensive set of difficulty / realism options.

Personally I think it will be the second, we will have a game that is very accessible for the new player but can be configured to be very simmy for the more hard core. That will be a brilliant thing, it'll get more people into the game, more people handing over money to Ubi and more chance of future games. I think a lot of people will start off on easy and become hardcore simmers.


Also as far as screenshots go, never assume a pre-release screenie is in the final game.

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I think the game will be a graphically enhanced version of SHIV (1.5) with a first person perspective and a few bells and whistles. I think the in game options will allow it to be dumbed down to a greater degree than previous Silent Hunter games, and I believe that most of those options can be turned off or modded out.

So instead of worrying and or speculating, why not just wait for it to be released and assess it then.

This seems odd, to fill a post admonishing speculators with phrases like "I think" and "I believe" while referring to speculative features. Or perhaps only you can speculate? Perhaps only "positive" speculation is acceptable? I think not and that is opinion not speculation.

People look at the available information, which is pretty slim all things considered and see things they like or do not see evidence of features that are desirable. Yet just because something is not seen does not mean it's not there so speculation on SH5 content is certainly valid.

From my perspective (and only my perspective) I have seen no evidence to indicate that SH5 will be superior to SH3+GWX in any respect other than the eye candy to which I am entirely indifferent. If you see other things, good for you but advocating muzzling people whilst barking up a storm lends your points of view little credibility in my book.

Within all the hyperbole nobody seems to notice that if the developers produce the simulation that some are attributing to them than the hugely talented pool of Modders around here might have little to do. Strange that some speculate what a great game SH5 will become but only after the Modders have their way with the stock version. Perhaps there is more fanboyism and wishful thinking than objective analysis based on available hard information going on here.

Just an opinion.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by JScones

If we're so inconsequential as you state (btw, I'd like to know your source on this because I think you are just guessing the percentage, which removes all credibility from your argument), then why are the devs more active here than at the "official" Ubi forums? Heck, why do they even bother with us at all if we are "nothing" as you want to imply.

Considering the devs are quite happy to cultivate our ideas, I don't see a problem in asking questions in return.

Well...How many hundred thousands of copies do they sell of, say, just SH3? A web search will show you that the SH series sold over 1.5 milllion copies world wide. You do the math about forum posters vs copies sold... it's not that hard to come to a conclusion.

And nothing wrong with asking questions, but there is a problem if people start complaining about lack of answers. Because that's not how it works.
You see, Ubi is a hot babe and her equally hot girlfriends (the devs) are way out of our league. You can go ahead and call them all you want, but don't expect them to call back.