Gun safety, Gun thoughts and Gun Control and my shiny new CZ-75B!

[Freiwillige]

@ Tribsman and XabbaRus You both have quite valid points. I thought about leaving out those embarrassing facts but I'm too honest for my own good.

The X-wife was not a drug addict when I married her. 6 months into the relationship she decided that sitting at home was boring while I was hard at work so she took up using Meth with her old high school friends. I had put her through rehab and she was cured (LOL) but she still had some strange people showing up at our apt. even in the middle of the night so I bought a gun. One day I went out and she wanted to stay home and do laundry. She pleaded I leave my gun for her safety. I argued against it at first but she thought that one of her addict acquaintances would show up and do her harm so I finally relented. A half an hour later she was gone and so was my pistol. I cannot confirm what happened to it but since I didnt see her for a week and she came home all cracked out and without my firearm it seemed pretty obvious to me. I packed and left her and let her know that the Gun was reported stolen and last seen in her possession. 12 months and it was finally over.

The second situation I was actually going to go to a pawn store but my roommate was like Ill give you the money and since we work together you can pay me back next week. His official story was that he needed money for car insurance and sold it to his dad but again he was a pot head so my assumptions are probably dead on.

From now on my gun stays in my safe or if I have it out its to the range and back.

I have learned when it comes to firearms not to trust anybody.
Call it learning from past mistakes at least I learned.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by ajrimmer42

any pics of your CZ???

Not quite the same I know, but I've just ordered a Tokyo Marui Glock 26 Advance GBB airsoft pistol, damn I can't wait!!! That's about as close as most of us Brits get.

Here ya go....
http://www.gunsnthings.com/Photos/CZ_folder/CZ75B.jpg

[Platapus]

Those CZ-75's look like sweet weapons.

[Freiwillige]

Its a great weapon, Ergonomics are top notch, realiability is read to be top notch as well and it is Nato qualified if that tells you anything.

Its really influanced by the Browning Hi Power but ads some of its own unique features as well such as a slide that rides on the inside of the frame as opposed to the outside which makes it a tighter and more accurate weapon.

And acourding to CZ-usa's website more Military, Police and governments use the CZ-75 than any other sidearm in the world.

The prices are good and Col. Jeff Cooper considered it the finest firearm in that calibre in the world. That says alot coming from a Colt M1911 guy.

I couldn't be more pleased and cant wait until Saturday to head out to the Range.....Ill let you all know how it turns out

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Here ya go....
http://www.gunsnthings.com/Photos/CZ_folder/CZ75B.jpg

Yeah, very nice looking weapon. How many rounds does it hold?

I was shooting at the indoor range last week. Bought some reload .40 cal ammo for my Ruger P-94; had my first jam, could not work the slide, had to use a screwdriver to work the round loose. That was unsettling. Not sure if it was the gun or the ammo, I went with factory loads from then on and did not have any more problems.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

To carry a concealed weapon on your person, yes, you need a license and the training that goes with it.

To simply own one, or keep one in your home? No. Not where I live, anyway.

California is a tinsy bit more anal. Im not sure what the regulations are for a concealed weapons permit, but..

For all long guns, (basically anything that's not a handgun), you have a 10 day waiting (cooling off) period. I can walk in to my local sporting goods store, provide a valid california drivers license, a fingerprint, cope up a background check fee, and come back in 10 days to take possesion of the weapon. Which BTW, has to have the breach locked in the open position with a special lock for it to be leagally transportable.

for handguns, apply all of the above with the addition of proof of attendence to a handgun safety course.


As for general firearm safety, along with the aforemetioned 4 rules, there's two others i go by.

5.) Always shoot center of mass

6.) requalify on the operation of the weapon.

Once in a blue moon, i will take my home defense shotgun, remove/lock up all the live ammo, and go through the operation of the weapon with snap caps / dummy rounds. Loading, unloading, cycling the action, breach loading, etc. I do this mainly for the bennfit of my spouse whom ill probably end up proposing to in another 5 months. If anyone ever breaks into our apartment, i want to make sure that firearm is 2nd nature and familiar.

[Freiwillige]

@ Neil, It could very well have been the ammunition. I know that if your powder charge is too low it can have problems extracting. It could also have been you limp wristing although you have shot your gun with other rounds without Issue so i doubt it is your hold on the Firearm. Lastly it could just be in need of a proper cleaning. I know some guns are just downright hatefull of certain kinds or brands of ammunition. I know that the CZ-forum guys recommend staying far away from brass ammunition for extraction issues with the CZ-75b until broken in. My Christmas firearm comes out of my mothers extensive collection and has had 26 rounds through it. Two ten round clips the day she bought it and the six at the factory. So its like new! It can hold 16 rounds +1 chambered but it was bought in 2005 while Clinton's no Hi-cap law was in effect so 1/4th of my magazines are solid plastic limiting it to 10 rounds. I will be replacing those with the original 16 round magazines soon.

@ Dimicus, To help keep the firearm in memmory I clean and field strip it often. Having a gun makes you safe like having a guitar makes you a musician. Its a tool and you have to familiarize yourself with its every function. You have to learn how to utilize it effectively in any situation which you may come across with said tool. I was fortunate to grow up around a bunch of Marines who loved to go shooting. I have learned to field strip and fire many variety's of firearms and had the pleasure of seeing an M-2 50 caliber Mg in action. So having not owned many firearms I have a long history of firing a great many of them. From rifles to shotguns to handguns I've played with allot just never had the urge to own one until I was in my 30's.

Some of the Best on this list of Guns I have had the pleasure to acquaint myself with and would always recommend are the...

Sig 226 (Sidearm of the United States Navy Seals) Great in both .40 and 9mm (Will own one someday)
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/sig/p226-navy-large.jpg

Springfield Socom M1A. Again great rifle and I will own one one day.
http://www.keepshooting.com/producti...6-riflebig.jpg

Ak-47 semi automatic Romanian import

Smith and Wesson 500 magnum. A .50 caliber round handgun that knocked the .44 magnum of the list of most powerful handgun category. I can tell you this one hurts to shoot!
http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/sw5...ft-full-hi.jpg.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

It could also have been you limp wristing although you have shot your gun with other rounds without Issue so i doubt it is your hold on the Firearm.

What is "limp wristing"?

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What is "limp wristing"?

Allowing the muzzle to be lifted by the recoil.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

This:



Supposedly fires this:



Personally, I think the first photo is photoshopped.

Not sure if it was that gun, or some other Czech gun, or maybe a Russian Makarov or Tokarev, but that one gun had pretty amazing power and durability. They managed to punch through a metal sheet of certain millimeters with it, a feat that wasn't equalled by many other hand guns.

Edit. Again I'd like to take this opportunity to expone the importance of gun safety. A lot of young guys are very into guns etc. and even if they think they are being careful, accidents still happen. I had my mishaps from which I (hopefully) learned from.

[Freiwillige]

@ Neil, Limp wristing is when you fire an automatic pistol and as the slide is coming back towards you you let the recoil kick the gun up. your wrist and hold on the firearm provides a stable enough base to let the kinetic energy of the slide eject the cartridge and slam the next one in place. When you let the recoil overpower your hold it robs the slide of some of its energy and often it doesn't have the power to eject the cartridge fully creating a "stove pipe"

A Stove pipe is when the bullet casing is not ejected fully from the firing chamber and hangs with the open end out of your pistol pinched in the slide.

It really sounds like your ammo to me.

[ETR3(SS)]

I'd have to agree with the ammo theory. I had a double feed stove pipe on my 1911 at the range when I first got it. That wasn't an easy one to clear. Was using reloaded ammo as well.

[August]

I had a reloaded round not have enough power to even push the bullet out of the barrel of my M1911. Luckly it didn't push the round far enough for the next round to go all the way into battery, or I might be typing one handed now.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

You cant even trust yourself around guns sometimes.
You could have run into serious trouble if that guy had done something with your gun. I dont know about USA laws but in Europe, when handling a gun you have to keep it in its case, disassembled, bullets in their box and carry it ONLY when you go from shooting range to home and vice versa.
Plus, you have to be member of a shooting club for at least two years to earn the right to have a gun. And then you go through psychological tests and a judge.
If you can follow all the above, you're safe from mishandlings.

That may be the case in Greece, but over here firearms laws are very different. Allso being a an active member in the Defence League makes my case even more different than most. I Have my service assault rifle and pistol at home at all times, assembled and loaded magazines nearby with a supply of loose ammo aaswell. If i were not in the defensce league it would still be wasyer for mr to own and carry pistols.