Gun safety, Gun thoughts and Gun Control and my shiny new CZ-75B!

Freiwillige · 01-08-10, 12:05 AM

@ Neil, It could very well have been the ammunition. I know that if your powder charge is too low it can have problems extracting. It could also have been you limp wristing although you have shot your gun with other rounds without Issue so i doubt it is your hold on the Firearm. Lastly it could just be in need of a proper cleaning. I know some guns are just downright hatefull of certain kinds or brands of ammunition. I know that the CZ-forum guys recommend staying far away from brass ammunition for extraction issues with the CZ-75b until broken in. My Christmas firearm comes out of my mothers extensive collection and has had 26 rounds through it. Two ten round clips the day she bought it and the six at the factory. So its like new! It can hold 16 rounds +1 chambered but it was bought in 2005 while Clinton's no Hi-cap law was in effect so 1/4th of my magazines are solid plastic limiting it to 10 rounds. I will be replacing those with the original 16 round magazines soon.

@ Dimicus, To help keep the firearm in memmory I clean and field strip it often. Having a gun makes you safe like having a guitar makes you a musician. Its a tool and you have to familiarize yourself with its every function. You have to learn how to utilize it effectively in any situation which you may come across with said tool. I was fortunate to grow up around a bunch of Marines who loved to go shooting. I have learned to field strip and fire many variety's of firearms and had the pleasure of seeing an M-2 50 caliber Mg in action. So having not owned many firearms I have a long history of firing a great many of them. From rifles to shotguns to handguns I've played with allot just never had the urge to own one until I was in my 30's.

Some of the Best on this list of Guns I have had the pleasure to acquaint myself with and would always recommend are the...

Sig 226 (Sidearm of the United States Navy Seals) Great in both .40 and 9mm (Will own one someday)
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/sig/p226-navy-large.jpg

Springfield Socom M1A. Again great rifle and I will own one one day.
http://www.keepshooting.com/producti...6-riflebig.jpg

Ak-47 semi automatic Romanian import

Smith and Wesson 500 magnum. A .50 caliber round handgun that knocked the .44 magnum of the list of most powerful handgun category. I can tell you this one hurts to shoot!
http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/sw5...ft-full-hi.jpg.

Onkel Neal · 01-08-10, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige

It could also have been you limp wristing although you have shot your gun with other rounds without Issue so i doubt it is your hold on the Firearm.

What is "limp wristing"?

01-08-10, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What is "limp wristing"?

Allowing the muzzle to be lifted by the recoil.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-08-10, 12:24 AM

This:

Supposedly fires this:

Personally, I think the first photo is photoshopped.

01-08-10, 12:50 AM

Not sure if it was that gun, or some other Czech gun, or maybe a Russian Makarov or Tokarev, but that one gun had pretty amazing power and durability. They managed to punch through a metal sheet of certain millimeters with it, a feat that wasn't equalled by many other hand guns.

Edit. Again I'd like to take this opportunity to expone the importance of gun safety. A lot of young guys are very into guns etc. and even if they think they are being careful, accidents still happen. I had my mishaps from which I (hopefully) learned from.

Freiwillige · 01-08-10, 04:22 AM

@ Neil, Limp wristing is when you fire an automatic pistol and as the slide is coming back towards you you let the recoil kick the gun up. your wrist and hold on the firearm provides a stable enough base to let the kinetic energy of the slide eject the cartridge and slam the next one in place. When you let the recoil overpower your hold it robs the slide of some of its energy and often it doesn't have the power to eject the cartridge fully creating a "stove pipe"

A Stove pipe is when the bullet casing is not ejected fully from the firing chamber and hangs with the open end out of your pistol pinched in the slide.

It really sounds like your ammo to me.

ETR3(SS) · 01-08-10, 10:32 AM

I'd have to agree with the ammo theory. I had a double feed stove pipe on my 1911 at the range when I first got it. That wasn't an easy one to clear.

Was using reloaded ammo as well.

Sailor Steve · 01-08-10, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Personally, I think the first photo is photoshopped.

If it isn't the recoil is going to turn that guy's whole body into pulp!

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-10-10, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If it isn't the recoil is going to turn that guy's whole body into pulp!

Maybe he could fire it w/a drawstring or something.

Anyway, it looks like a fine weapon for home defense.

01-10-10, 10:26 AM

CaptainHaplo,

the guy is pawning his weapons for some drug user who subsequently sells it off and you're hitting us with the hitler-card? Sheesh...

01-08-10, 12:24 AM	#4
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	This: Supposedly fires this: Personally, I think the first photo is photoshopped. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

01-08-10, 12:50 AM	#5
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Not sure if it was that gun, or some other Czech gun, or maybe a Russian Makarov or Tokarev, but that one gun had pretty amazing power and durability. They managed to punch through a metal sheet of certain millimeters with it, a feat that wasn't equalled by many other hand guns. Edit. Again I'd like to take this opportunity to expone the importance of gun safety. A lot of young guys are very into guns etc. and even if they think they are being careful, accidents still happen. I had my mishaps from which I (hopefully) learned from. Last edited by OneToughHerring; 01-08-10 at 01:00 AM.

01-08-10, 10:32 AM	#7
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I'd have to agree with the ammo theory. I had a double feed stove pipe on my 1911 at the range when I first got it. That wasn't an easy one to clear. Was using reloaded ammo as well. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

01-08-10, 12:05 AM	#1
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	@ Neil, It could very well have been the ammunition. I know that if your powder charge is too low it can have problems extracting. It could also have been you limp wristing although you have shot your gun with other rounds without Issue so i doubt it is your hold on the Firearm. Lastly it could just be in need of a proper cleaning. I know some guns are just downright hatefull of certain kinds or brands of ammunition. I know that the CZ-forum guys recommend staying far away from brass ammunition for extraction issues with the CZ-75b until broken in. My Christmas firearm comes out of my mothers extensive collection and has had 26 rounds through it. Two ten round clips the day she bought it and the six at the factory. So its like new! It can hold 16 rounds +1 chambered but it was bought in 2005 while Clinton's no Hi-cap law was in effect so 1/4th of my magazines are solid plastic limiting it to 10 rounds. I will be replacing those with the original 16 round magazines soon. @ Dimicus, To help keep the firearm in memmory I clean and field strip it often. Having a gun makes you safe like having a guitar makes you a musician. Its a tool and you have to familiarize yourself with its every function. You have to learn how to utilize it effectively in any situation which you may come across with said tool. I was fortunate to grow up around a bunch of Marines who loved to go shooting. I have learned to field strip and fire many variety's of firearms and had the pleasure of seeing an M-2 50 caliber Mg in action. So having not owned many firearms I have a long history of firing a great many of them. From rifles to shotguns to handguns I've played with allot just never had the urge to own one until I was in my 30's. Some of the Best on this list of Guns I have had the pleasure to acquaint myself with and would always recommend are the... Sig 226 (Sidearm of the United States Navy Seals) Great in both .40 and 9mm (Will own one someday) http://www.gunshopfinder.com/sig/p226-navy-large.jpg Springfield Socom M1A. Again great rifle and I will own one one day. http://www.keepshooting.com/producti...6-riflebig.jpg Ak-47 semi automatic Romanian import Smith and Wesson 500 magnum. A .50 caliber round handgun that knocked the .44 magnum of the list of most powerful handgun category. I can tell you this one hurts to shoot! http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/sw5...ft-full-hi.jpg.

01-08-10, 04:22 AM	#6
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	@ Neil, Limp wristing is when you fire an automatic pistol and as the slide is coming back towards you you let the recoil kick the gun up. your wrist and hold on the firearm provides a stable enough base to let the kinetic energy of the slide eject the cartridge and slam the next one in place. When you let the recoil overpower your hold it robs the slide of some of its energy and often it doesn't have the power to eject the cartridge fully creating a "stove pipe" A Stove pipe is when the bullet casing is not ejected fully from the firing chamber and hangs with the open end out of your pistol pinched in the slide. It really sounds like your ammo to me.

01-10-10, 10:26 AM	#10
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	CaptainHaplo, the guy is pawning his weapons for some drug user who subsequently sells it off and you're hitting us with the hitler-card? Sheesh...