Islam march through Wooton Bassett...

Morts · 01-05-10, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I'd rather point out the obviously racist activity that goes on here. I'm not in the habit of running away from the likes of you.

likes of you ? are you trying to say that im borderline racist or that im a racist ?.....

01-05-10, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts

likes of you ? are you trying to say that im borderline racist or that im a racist ?.....

I don't care what you are. Tell you what, when you get to the border I'll load up the machine that Dowly will use to shoot you with, you dirty foreigner. We've already had Steen Christensen from your contry, we don't need another.

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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

OTH... don't you feel slightly disgusted about this? Muslims who support the Taliban fighters, who are killing our lads... marching through the place where our fallen heroes return to their homeland?

You say its racist... I would like to know what planet your from. To me its simply upholding common sense and dignity of those who gave their lives for their country, and their families!

I think shooting Englishmen is "upholding common sense and dignity". What do you think about that?

Morts · 01-05-10, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I don't care what you are. Tell you what, when you get to the border I'll load up the machine that Dowly will use to shoot you with, you dirty foreigner. We've already had Steen Christensen from your contry, we don't need another.

I think shooting Englishmen is "upholding common sense and dignity". What do you think about that?

wow, arent you a friendly one

Dowly · 01-05-10, 05:12 PM

Letum · 01-05-10, 05:14 PM

No one has the right to not be offended, everyone has the right to free
association and speech.

Anyhow, it's probably a shot in the foot. The more extreme the extremists
get; the more they alienate those who might otherwise sympathize with
them.

If you don't want to give them what they consider a victory, then don't
give them the reaction and publicity they desperatly seek.

Skybird · 01-05-10, 05:26 PM

If rightwingers would march against this provocation, then this only is because the democratic mainstream and the oh so moderated burgois leave the need of confronting Islam to them, because they are too intimidated or too comfortable to confront it themselves. That way, opposition to Islam has been demonised as racism since many years in Europe. but fact remains that the inactivity of the politicians disgust more and more people who originally are moderate and democratic, but see that the moderate and the democratic powers completey fail on the challenge of Islam, and instead even assist it. And by that you turn more and more moderate, reasonable, democratic people if not into rightwinged extremist then at least into people silently tolerating rightwinged extremists. the minarett vote in Switzerland must be understood that way. Too great ignorrance of politicians for the real public opinion on islam, and too many people seeing that they get betrayed by those they have trusted to solve the problem.

Political extremism does not just fall from the sky, by random events. It can be explained, and in this case it is because the moderate powers fail. No other religion or political ideology gets so much media awareness today, than Islam. It is the most dominant ideology, both politically and relgiously, in europe, seen that way, it is omnipresent in the media like even the church is not, or a party's program - although muslims are still a minority only, while agreement levels to democracy are constantly falling since years amongst born europeans. but muslim colonies grow and grow in size. Imagine the noise there will be once they are strong enough to form a party collecting 10% of the votes.

You do not want rightwinged radicals claiming the opposition to Islam a cause for themselves? then go to the street and march against Islam yourself, and kick politicians supporting Islam. Or become a member in a grasroot movement confronting Islamic projects, like I did myself.

In the final days of the GDR, the Eastgermans marched in the streets, and their most feared and most famous slogan was "Wir sind das Volk!" - We are the people! Let no dumbheaded philantropic islam-loving politicians, who know nothing about it and will see forward that they must not live in its neighbourhood, enforce their insane policy of cultural selfdestruction upon you! We are the people of europe. So let'S send these political kamikaze gangsters to hell. fight against Islam while you still have time. Your children, when they have grown up, possibly will already find it impossible to do so with at least a realistic chance of success.

Morts · 01-05-10, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I don't care what you are. Tell you what, when you get to the border I'll load up the machine that Dowly will use to shoot you with, you dirty foreigner. We've already had Steen Christensen from your contry, we don't need another.

I think shooting Englishmen is "upholding common sense and dignity". What do you think about that?

you come here and say "oooh thats racism/borderline racism" pretending to be a good guy...and then you proceed to say you want to shoot me if i wanted to live in finland/showed up at the border because im a....foreigner

?
and that shooting englishmen is upholding common sense and dignity?
jesus christ on a pushbike

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and you call us racist for criticizing islam ? (which makes no sense whatsoever), well, then you must be a racist for hating danes/foreigners

Happy Times · 01-05-10, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I think shooting Englishmen is "upholding common sense and dignity". What do you think about that?

Brave little boy, you never even beaten someone in a fist fight, have you?

baggygreen · 01-06-10, 03:09 AM

I gotta point out, OTH, that it is NOT racism to be critical of Islam.

Islam is not a race, it is a religion that pervades into the way of life of its subscribers.

Why is it that noone can criticise islam, but to criticise judaism results in bitter, lie-fuelled clashes and christianity is free game? I've never had an answer to that question.

At the end of the day, islam judaism and christianity all worship the same entity. their clashes are absurd.

Skybird · 01-06-10, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

At the end of the day, islam judaism and christianity all worship the same entity. their clashes are absurd.

That may or may not be true, but it is not important. When we talk of Isalam in contexts like here, we do not mean the theological or philantropic or spiritual diemnsion of it, but we talk of Islam in its political and sociological dimension, and the effectsthat Islam creates in it, and in society. And there it could not be any more different from a democratic liberal open secular society - whose rules it does not accept and totally refuses to accept now or in the future and sees as a hostile entity that must be overcome.

01-05-10, 05:14 PM	#5
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	No one has the right to not be offended, everyone has the right to free association and speech. Anyhow, it's probably a shot in the foot. The more extreme the extremists get; the more they alienate those who might otherwise sympathize with them. If you don't want to give them what they consider a victory, then don't give them the reaction and publicity they desperatly seek. __________________

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,654 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If rightwingers would march against this provocation, then this only is because the democratic mainstream and the oh so moderated burgois leave the need of confronting Islam to them, because they are too intimidated or too comfortable to confront it themselves. That way, opposition to Islam has been demonised as racism since many years in Europe. but fact remains that the inactivity of the politicians disgust more and more people who originally are moderate and democratic, but see that the moderate and the democratic powers completey fail on the challenge of Islam, and instead even assist it. And by that you turn more and more moderate, reasonable, democratic people if not into rightwinged extremist then at least into people silently tolerating rightwinged extremists. the minarett vote in Switzerland must be understood that way. Too great ignorrance of politicians for the real public opinion on islam, and too many people seeing that they get betrayed by those they have trusted to solve the problem. Political extremism does not just fall from the sky, by random events. It can be explained, and in this case it is because the moderate powers fail. No other religion or political ideology gets so much media awareness today, than Islam. It is the most dominant ideology, both politically and relgiously, in europe, seen that way, it is omnipresent in the media like even the church is not, or a party's program - although muslims are still a minority only, while agreement levels to democracy are constantly falling since years amongst born europeans. but muslim colonies grow and grow in size. Imagine the noise there will be once they are strong enough to form a party collecting 10% of the votes. You do not want rightwinged radicals claiming the opposition to Islam a cause for themselves? then go to the street and march against Islam yourself, and kick politicians supporting Islam. Or become a member in a grasroot movement confronting Islamic projects, like I did myself. In the final days of the GDR, the Eastgermans marched in the streets, and their most feared and most famous slogan was "Wir sind das Volk!" - We are the people! Let no dumbheaded philantropic islam-loving politicians, who know nothing about it and will see forward that they must not live in its neighbourhood, enforce their insane policy of cultural selfdestruction upon you! We are the people of europe. So let'S send these political kamikaze gangsters to hell. fight against Islam while you still have time. Your children, when they have grown up, possibly will already find it impossible to do so with at least a realistic chance of success. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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01-06-10, 03:09 AM	#9
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I gotta point out, OTH, that it is NOT racism to be critical of Islam. Islam is not a race, it is a religion that pervades into the way of life of its subscribers. Why is it that noone can criticise islam, but to criticise judaism results in bitter, lie-fuelled clashes and christianity is free game? I've never had an answer to that question. At the end of the day, islam judaism and christianity all worship the same entity. their clashes are absurd.