The Creation vs Evolution debate thread...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

About natural selection, who select a better way to evolve? if there is some sort of thing that do natural design, that thing is wiser and smarter than ourselves.

An animal has a mutation, that mutation, results to be useful, the 'natural selection', the will to live or i dont know decides that this thing must be part of the genoma, so the next generation will have it, but no... to make a nice change to evolve, it will need a lot of small error or random chances, who decides that 1000 little random chances to put them together and finish with a 'evolution'.

I'm using logic, instead of participate in the disscussion, i could talk about God himself, but that preaching right, and is not welcome? or yes?.

That's a very big "if". But by merely mentioning it you then continue by taking it as granted. That has nothing to do with "logic", but means taking man-made hear-say as proven fact.

And you probably assume right: just preaching about gods is not welcomed by not so few people around here, and you can expect an angry debate and a thread probably going up in flames (wouldn't be the first one). You are free to believe whatever you want, most people here would not care or wish that they must not care or even take notice - as long as you keep it where it belongs: in your private sphere. the relation between yourself and the object of your belief is an intimate one and thus a private concern of yours, so keep it private, then. If you think you must bestow the world with what you just believe, and go public over it, expect to take Flak from people not sharing your beliefs. that's how the world goes: every action has reaction and whatever force you inflict, returns.

As much as evolution is concerned, it is a theory that for the most brings known observations of ours into a better model than other theories we tested. To do so - forming theories oin the basis of making best use of what we already know - is the essence of science. Religion claims that questions are not needed since it holds all the ultimate answers. Science asks questions and checks the answers again and again, sometimes chnaging themtherefore, admitting that it does not hold ultimate truths. Religious dogma and scientific theory are totally exclusive to each other, they are almost antagonistic. If you want to abolish the theory of evolution, you must come up with a better model that brings the elements of our knowledge so far into better relation to each other, or you have to prove that the mechanisms of life developing as described by the theory of evolution, is wrong for this and that reason that can be checked, verified and replicated.

Just believing something - is not good enough to get any of these jobs done. Proof, please!