How well liked are modding among UBI/developers?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I still like to fire up Civ IV here and there. Hard to believe that came out the same year as SH3.

never played it personally,

I do play Microsoft Flight Simulator X once in a very blue moon... it was an '06 title if i remember correctly.

nothing else on my hard drive is older than SH3.

I hope i can say the same for SH5 in 2013

[THE_MASK]

I know what your thinkin , am i a modder or a mod downloader . Well, to tell you the truth, i might be both . But being as this is a silent hunter game the most awsome sub game in the world, and would blow your socks clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: am i a modder or a mod downloader. Well, what am i , punk?

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by sober

I know what your thinkin , am i a modder or a mod downloader . Well, to tell you the truth, i might be both . But being as this is a silent hunter game the most awsome sub game in the world, and would blow your socks clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: am i a modder or a mod downloader. Well, what am i , punk?

Famous last words: "I'm a modder If the link in my sig doesn't convince you, you can shoot that magnum... biatch. "

[JScones]

If Ubisoft Romania (the developer) or Ubisoft (the publisher) thought modding was an issue, they'd be waving their License Agreement in the faces of every modder here, or doing the "Oleg"...

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by JScones

If Ubisoft Romania (the developer) or Ubisoft (the publisher) thought modding was an issue, they'd be waving their License Agreement in the faces of every modder here, or doing the "Oleg"...

I'll keep this simple because I''m tired and it's late.

You have a company jaeson and you could sue someone for stealing or just ripping off your work.

In the case of the GWX team who put their heart and soul and probably more in their work, are scattered all over the world.

They couldn't come up with the money to start a legal action no matter what disclaimer they add at the end of their mod.

That unfortunately is the real world.

Hell their stuff is already on a Pirate site.

As for Oleg, He can go pound sand. There's tons of mods and reworks for IL2. And he can't stop it.

To finish. My admiration for the GWX team is boundless. They made SH-3 what it should have been. And I don't want to leave out the other modders that took it to Greatness to.

SHV might be fantastic or just smoke and mirrors, only 2010 will tell.

But SH-3 GWX GOLD will always be the standard to compare all to.

[JScones]

Yes, you must be tired, as your post has absolutely no correlation with my quote whatsoever. Pls read it again and tell me where I have mentioned the rights of modders. You'll find it's the contrary.

BTW, practically every SH3Cmdr user is breaking the License Agreement...but unless I find evidence of it being sold for profit, it's not an issue. There's even mod packs (for other games) that include JSGME without my permission, but again, provided their wares are free, it's not an issue.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by JScones

Yes, you must be tired, as your post has absolutely no correlation with my quote whatsoever. Pls read it again and tell me where I have mentioned the rights of modders. You'll find it's the contrary.

BTW, practically every SH3Cmdr user is breaking the License Agreement...but unless I find evidence of it being sold for profit, it's not an issue. There's even mod packs (for other games) that include JSGME without my permission, but again, provided their wares are free, it's not an issue.

I was tired. Nothing was aimed at you.

I guess the point I was trying to make is that all the copyright and liense agreements are useless against a theif that wants to steal your stuff, package it a little differently and sell it on the internet.

Physicaly catching him to serve a summons is near impossible.

GWx team as an example. Earlier in their beginnings their work was stolen and used in an add-on for SH3, sold on the internet and at all major stores.

Gamestop, BestBuy, Fryes elec. to name a few and are still to this day on the shelves of two.

To add salt to the wound they (the thiefs) had the approval of Ubisoft.

So in closeing the point I was trying to make is nobobys stuff is safe on the wide open internet. And that is saddening.

I also want to thank you for the tools you have gave so genoursly to us at SubSim.

[FIREWALL]

As for SH4UBM I don't care for it and use the cd for a drink coaster.

BUT.... I admire and applaud all the hard work that the modders big and small have done for it.