Deceased Crew Members / How will crew deaths be simulated? (threads merged)

GoldenRivet · 12-07-09, 04:18 PM

of course its not that we want to see our men die.

its just that - in the event that they do die during patrol... its incredibly detracting from the sense of realism for them to just suddenly be GONE without a trace.

imagine all the call of duty games - if the soldier next to you takes a hit - he doesnt just go *POOF* into thin air.

gordonmull · 12-07-09, 05:05 PM

Flipping heck folks. This is about WAR. People die.

From this and another similar thread, some people seem to think that you sail about launching bunches of flowers at ships, there's an explosion of petals and everybody gets whisked away in an invisible silver cloud to a paradise.

A u-boat simulator should simulate war. If I go on a war patrol I expect my men may get wounded or killed, although I hope they will not and I will work hard to make sure they stay healthy. The reality is that in this theatre of war, as most of us know, three quarters of the crews did not return. I doubt it was pleasant for them to see their comrades and friends having bits blown off them and getting washed overboard and countless other horrors.

Death should be in the game. It's the whole purpose of being at war. You're out to kill the enemy or be killed.

And I am not an eye candy, X-box junkie that needs gore .(Currently about to start replaying Elite FYI

). Still I'd also say it's not a MAJOR fault if a bit of 'Oh hell Frehnsenn just got his head removed by shrapnel' was missed out. I just think it would be more immersive with it in.

Phew!! Rant over!

GoldenRivet · 12-07-09, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gordonmull

Flipping heck

irish1958 · 12-07-09, 05:16 PM

I'll tell you this: if that idiot watch officer doesn't get his ass out of the rack and get up on deck when the boat surfaces, we won't have to simulate his demise.

Lord Justice · 12-07-09, 05:16 PM

here here, a theatre of war.

Task Force · 12-07-09, 05:33 PM

I always thought that that was stupid, that even in SH4 crew didnt actualy have a death animation, just a injured one...

I see nothing rong with death animations... hundreds of other games have them... Im sure it could be optional for those who dont want it...

Elder-Pirate · 12-07-09, 05:43 PM

This may not be for the "faint of heart" fans here.

Although this is not a death scene of Sgt. Baker from "Brothers in Arms-Hell's Highway", I would not mind seeing this of one of my fellow ship mates when he got too close to a shell/shrapnel. Of course for the squeamish of this thread maybe there could be an option for blood/no blood.

If any of you have played this then you have seen blood and all sorts of body parts laying around but then again that's war.

Sure glad I didn't tell my Skipper of the USS Sarsfield EDD 837 to not have any blood & gore while on our cruise.

EDIT: BTW guess whom the Publisher was for this one?

You got it............UbiSoft.

JScones · 12-08-09, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonmull

From this and another similar thread, some people seem to think that you sail about launching bunches of flowers at ships, there's an explosion of petals and everybody gets whisked away in an invisible silver cloud to a paradise.

Oh man, that is priceless.

DarkFish · 12-07-09, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

imagine all the call of duty games - if the soldier next to you takes a hit - he doesnt just go *POOF* into thin air.

nope, in CoD:WaW you can shoot their limbs off, burn them alive using your flamethrower or stab a bayonette straight through their hearts. And that all with extensively modeled death anims

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Originally Posted by Task Force

I always thought that that was stupid, that even in SH4 crew didnt actualy have a death animation, just a injured one...

hmm, i recall seing crewmembers lying dead on the deck

or is all that CoD:WaW playing screwing up my memory now already?

Task Force · 12-07-09, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

nope, in CoD:WaW you can shoot their limbs off, burn them alive using your flamethrower or stab a bayonette straight through their hearts. And that all with extensively modeled death anims
hmm, i recall seing crewmembers lying dead on the deck

or is all that CoD:WaW playing screwing up my memory now already?

no, just a injured... every fiew seconds they would act like they are looseing there balance...

12-07-09, 04:18 PM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	of course its not that we want to see our men die. its just that - in the event that they do die during patrol... its incredibly detracting from the sense of realism for them to just suddenly be GONE without a trace. imagine all the call of duty games - if the soldier next to you takes a hit - he doesnt just go POOF into thin air. __________________

12-07-09, 05:16 PM	#4
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I'll tell you this: if that idiot watch officer doesn't get his ass out of the rack and get up on deck when the boat surfaces, we won't have to simulate his demise. __________________ Irish1958

12-07-09, 05:33 PM	#6
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I always thought that that was stupid, that even in SH4 crew didnt actualy have a death animation, just a injured one... I see nothing rong with death animations... hundreds of other games have them... Im sure it could be optional for those who dont want it... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

12-07-09, 05:43 PM	#7
Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	This may not be for the "faint of heart" fans here. Although this is not a death scene of Sgt. Baker from "Brothers in Arms-Hell's Highway", I would not mind seeing this of one of my fellow ship mates when he got too close to a shell/shrapnel. Of course for the squeamish of this thread maybe there could be an option for blood/no blood. If any of you have played this then you have seen blood and all sorts of body parts laying around but then again *that's war*. Sure glad I didn't tell my Skipper of the USS Sarsfield EDD 837 to not have any blood & gore while on our cruise. EDIT: BTW guess whom the Publisher was for this one? You got it............UbiSoft. __________________

12-07-09, 05:05 PM	#2
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Flipping heck folks. This is about WAR. People die. From this and another similar thread, some people seem to think that you sail about launching bunches of flowers at ships, there's an explosion of petals and everybody gets whisked away in an invisible silver cloud to a paradise. A u-boat simulator should simulate war. If I go on a war patrol I expect my men may get wounded or killed, although I hope they will not and I will work hard to make sure they stay healthy. The reality is that in this theatre of war, as most of us know, three quarters of the crews did not return. I doubt it was pleasant for them to see their comrades and friends having bits blown off them and getting washed overboard and countless other horrors. Death should be in the game. It's the whole purpose of being at war. You're out to kill the enemy or be killed. And I am not an eye candy, X-box junkie that needs gore .(Currently about to start replaying Elite FYI ). Still I'd also say it's not a MAJOR fault if a bit of 'Oh hell Frehnsenn just got his head removed by shrapnel' was missed out. I just think it would be more immersive with it in. Phew!! Rant over!

12-07-09, 05:16 PM	#5
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	here here, a theatre of war.