Way to go, Huckabee

[Platapus]

I always wonder why people call it "duck" tape. It is duct tape.

Duct Duct. Originally designed to tape the seams in ducts.

Next time someone calls it duck tape, I will have to cry foul!

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Sometimes the board is pushed to do things because of overcrowding. The Broomstick Killer is a classic example of this.

We have overcrowding here as well, which is something I just don't get. Maybe I'm just being dim but isn't the answer kind of obvious? Build more prisons?

[FIREWALL]

What a pack of WHINERS


Your all going to learn someday you can't have it both ways.

[CaptainHaplo]

OLC - while it might start a debate - its cheaper and quicker to just put em down.

I know many are not death penalty advocates, but the fact is there are people who will never be rehabilitated, have caused death of an innocent or more than one, and instead of costing the taxpayers of the nation - we should give em 2 years on death row to appeal, then execute them at the end of that time if no appeal has been successful.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Huckabee is a strange guy to me. He has political/social positions I abhor, but he seems so damn nice!!!!

He *IS* a nice guy.

Don't get me wrong; I've never been a supporter of his. However, I HAVE met the man on several occassions during dinners at the Arkansas Gov. Mansion several years back, and the man is about as geniune as can be. I just think his policies are often rooted in a hopeless naivete.

Frankly, I find him (even to this day) to be an incredibly likeable individual, despite our policy disagreements - not really a "wolf in sheep's clothing", as it were.

Furthermore, I find his unfortunate, misguided actions regarding Clemmons to be a sad reminder to us all that we should not overestimate ANY individual's capacity for rehabilitation, despite our best wishes to the contrary. It's a sad, albeit timely, reminder in the wake of current controversies surrounding the detainees at Guantanamo Bay. While the situations are surely not parallel, the remifications could very well be, and this kind of tragedy serves to put the politicians on notice - if you gamble on the side of the bad guy and you lose, the consequences can be severe.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I always wonder why people call it "duck" tape. It is duct tape.

Duct Duct. Originally designed to tape the seams in ducts.

Next time someone calls it duck tape, I will have to cry foul!

Or cry fowl.

But what if I want to tape up my duck?

Which rhymes with Huck.

So I'm not too far off topic yet.

Wading in the muck.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Or cry fowl.

But what if I want to tape up my duck?

I hear that duck tape is good for sealing quacks...

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

OLC - while it might start a debate - its cheaper and quicker to just put em down.

I know many are not death penalty advocates, but the fact is there are people who will never be rehabilitated, have caused death of an innocent or more than one, and instead of costing the taxpayers of the nation - we should give em 2 years on death row to appeal, then execute them at the end of that time if no appeal has been successful.

Personally I'd rather lock them up for life. If I have to pay some extra tax, that's fine.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Wolf in sheep's clothing. The merit of a person and their beliefs cannot be judged by their words or mannerisms, no matter how well-presented.

Originally Posted by Aramike

He *IS* a nice guy.

Don't get me wrong; I've never been a supporter of his. However, I HAVE met the man on several occassions during dinners at the Arkansas Gov. Mansion several years back, and the man is about as geniune as can be. I just think his policies are often rooted in a hopeless naivete.

Frankly, I find him (even to this day) to be an incredibly likeable individual, despite our policy disagreements - not really a "wolf in sheep's clothing", as it were.

Furthermore, I find his unfortunate, misguided actions regarding Clemmons to be a sad reminder to us all that we should not overestimate ANY individual's capacity for rehabilitation, despite our best wishes to the contrary. It's a sad, albeit timely, reminder in the wake of current controversies surrounding the detainees at Guantanamo Bay. While the situations are surely not parallel, the remifications could very well be, and this kind of tragedy serves to put the politicians on notice - if you gamble on the side of the bad guy and you lose, the consequences can be severe.

Well, I'd never vote for him. I always look at policy and ability in a candidate before personality. It's a shame that Lincoln wouldn't have a prayer of being elected President, today. Just plain ugly, and he apparently had a really high pitched voice.

Aramike, you seem to be almost describing a right wing Jimmy Carter!!!! And he was HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER!!!

[August]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Personally I'd rather lock them up for life. If I have to pay some extra tax, that's fine.

Agree 100%. As long as it's hard time.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

We have overcrowding here as well, which is something I just don't get. Maybe I'm just being dim but isn't the answer kind of obvious? Build more prisons?

Issue is, do you want a prison in your neighborhood? I could do without one in mine. I got enough in my vicinity. I wish I had the answer but I don't. The small time offender who does a year or two comes out and continues to commit crime. Usually ends back in prison. The hardcore criminal gets life of course or death penalty but they sit for years on death row. Classic example is the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez

Apprehended in 1985 and last I heard was still on the row in 2006. Ever seen the movie Escape for New York? Perhaps that should be done. One island out in the ocean. No means of escape. Drop food weekly. Let'em duke it out on their own.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Issue is, do you want a prison in your neighborhood?

Better that than dangerous criminals in my neighbourhood.

As for the idea of a prison/penal colony... yeah, I think we Brits did that already. And Australia turned out just fine. Completely rehabilitated. I think we have our answer!

Joke! Joke! Don't hit me!

[AVGWarhawk]

People get upset with prisons in their neighborhoods because of possible escapes, etc. Some feel the institutions devalue their property. Numerous other reasons. Good point on Australia as a penal colony back in the day. But hey, we get Foster's, shrimp on the barbie, kangroos and Outback Steak House.