Torpedoes detonate at closer ranges

Reece · 11-24-09, 02:04 AM

This is an old bug that the torpedoes won't detonate at ranges closer than 500mts, they just bounce off!! in RL they have fired them as close as 250mts, is there a way to change this, I must admit that I haven't tried in a long time, just assume it is still the same.

Reece · 11-24-09, 02:25 AM

Hmmm, last I tried at 400mts certainly bounced off, that was a 90 degree shot, straight on!! maybe my nav map ruler is out!

Commander Gizmo · 11-24-09, 02:29 AM

There are duds in the game unless you have disabled the realism option.

Also, would it not be a timer that armed the torpedo rather than distance? Since the torpedo runs at a variable speed in the case of a T1, the distance would not be the same unless the torpedo was programmed to know the difference and arm at 300m regardless of speed.

Thus, different speed torpedoes would arm at different distances, no?

Gerald · 11-24-09, 06:08 AM

Even if you can disabled the option in the game so still they are there anyway,but have a shorter time, sounds like a good thing

Gerald · 11-24-09, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

This is an old bug that the torpedoes won't detonate at ranges closer than 500mts, they just bounce off!! in RL they have fired them as close as 250mts, is there a way to change this, I must admit that I haven't tried in a long time, just assume it is still the same.

Have you info about straight run for the torpedo?

evan82 · 11-24-09, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Hmmm, last I tried at 400mts certainly bounced off, that was a 90 degree shot, straight on!! maybe my nav map ruler is out!

This is strange. I never noticed this before.

For me torpedo always detonate after minimum 300m range if it hit the enemy's unit and, if the magnetic detonator don't fail.

Reece · 11-24-09, 06:54 AM

These are the standard type with pistol detonators, I do have dud torpedoes but this is like 100% of the time, using manual TDC.

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Also, would it not be a timer that armed the torpedo rather than distance?

Is there a setting? don't think I've noticed a timer setting, if there is it's always been default, this might be the answer, the only thing I've ever adjusted is the speed, distance and angle.

irish1958 · 11-24-09, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

These are the standard type with pistol detonators, I do have dud torpedoes but this is like 100% of the time, using manual TDC.
Is there a setting? don't think I've noticed a timer setting, if there is it's always been default, this might be the answer, the only thing I've ever adjusted is the speed, distance and angle.

Yesterday, I had three torpedoes hit and bounce off at 450 meters on manual TDC settings. Settings were "fast" and "magnetic." The forth torpedo was set to go off 1.5 meters under the boat, and passed under without exploding.
How do the torpedoes arm? Is it time or distance?

Tom · 11-24-09, 10:47 AM

The arming distance should be 300 meters, based on range, not time.

One possible explanation for torpedoes bouncing off even in 90 AOB attacks is shooting them too low, so that they hit the curved part of the hull. I don't think I've ever had a magnetic trigger go off in these situations - magnetic triggers only seem to detonate when actually under (but close to) the hull, never when bouncing off the hull.

Jimbuna · 11-24-09, 03:01 PM

@Reece and Irish

The rule of thumb is that the eels arm over distance.....300 metres and 400 metres in the case of a Falke.

FIREWALL · 11-24-09, 03:10 PM

This is strange.

I've had them set on pistol and detonate at as little as 200 mtrs.

A desparation shot at a destroyer. And a stern shot at that.

I would imagine it (distance) can be edited tho.

Iirc reading somewhere, setting torp so it would arm at a distance was a safety reason.

And that safety could, be removed/changed.

timwatson · 11-24-09, 04:08 PM

Perhaps a bit off the topic, but would anyone like to comment on how to dispatch DD's approaching uboat positions once they are within 400 meters? (GWX SH3)

kaluen Rolfe Hass

Commander Gizmo · 11-24-09, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by timwatson

Perhaps a bit off the topic, but would anyone like to comment on how to dispatch DD's approaching uboat positions once they are within 400 meters? (GWX SH3)

kaluen Rolfe Hass

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...93#post1208493

Reece · 11-24-09, 07:51 PM

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Iirc reading somewhere, setting torp so it would arm at a distance was a safety reason.

And that safety could, be removed/changed.

Maybe someone knows something about this!

irish1958 seems to be having the same issue as me, I know I have changed the torpedo depth but that seemed to have no effect.

timwatson · 11-30-09, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Padvotke

Correction: the torpedoes won't detonate at ranges closer than 300 m

I've encountered premature torpedo denonation situation during my ninth mission while attacking a DD:

Type 1 at 44knt setting at 4m depth. Sea conditions: force 15

Could rough seas be affecting the situation?

oblt Rolfe Hass (Tim Watson)

11-24-09, 02:04 AM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,709 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Torpedoes detonate at closer ranges This is an old bug that the torpedoes won't detonate at ranges closer than 500mts, they just bounce off!! in RL they have fired them as close as 250mts, is there a way to change this, I must admit that I haven't tried in a long time, just assume it is still the same. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-24-09, 02:25 AM	#2
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,709 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, last I tried at 400mts certainly bounced off, that was a 90 degree shot, straight on!! maybe my nav map ruler is out! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-24-09, 06:08 AM	#4
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Dud torps.. Even if you can disabled the option in the game so still they are there anyway,but have a shorter time, sounds like a good thing __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-24-09, 03:01 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	@Reece and Irish The rule of thumb is that the eels arm over distance.....300 metres and 400 metres in the case of a Falke. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-24-09, 03:10 PM	#11
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	This is strange. I've had them set on pistol and detonate at as little as 200 mtrs. A desparation shot at a destroyer. And a stern shot at that. I would imagine it (distance) can be edited tho. Iirc reading somewhere, setting torp so it would arm at a distance was a safety reason. And that safety could, be removed/changed. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-24-09, 02:29 AM	#3
Commander Gizmo Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 4	There are duds in the game unless you have disabled the realism option. Also, would it not be a timer that armed the torpedo rather than distance? Since the torpedo runs at a variable speed in the case of a T1, the distance would not be the same unless the torpedo was programmed to know the difference and arm at 300m regardless of speed. Thus, different speed torpedoes would arm at different distances, no?

11-24-09, 10:47 AM	#9
Tom Gunner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 97 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The arming distance should be 300 meters, based on range, not time. One possible explanation for torpedoes bouncing off even in 90 AOB attacks is shooting them too low, so that they hit the curved part of the hull. I don't think I've ever had a magnetic trigger go off in these situations - magnetic triggers only seem to detonate when actually under (but close to) the hull, never when bouncing off the hull.

11-24-09, 04:08 PM	#12
timwatson Seaman Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	DD desparation shots Perhaps a bit off the topic, but would anyone like to comment on how to dispatch DD's approaching uboat positions once they are within 400 meters? (GWX SH3) kaluen Rolfe Hass __________________ Rolfe Hass