Lets go Green !!!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

As long as we are using more oil than our wells that are running TODAY are producing we are one way or another buying terrorist oil.

New production takes 10 years from approval to market. = useless

Tho I have to admit I am intrigued by the idea of using laser cutting to recover more oil in existing sites. It uses alot more power but it is fast and does not contact the surface. They are saying it could cut down drilling on land by a third.

You see despite the shrill calls to give the oil companies whatever the hell they want. They can and are evolving on their own. And boatloads of new tech investments are slowly but surely starting to reduce the need for oil. Of course my favorite is Algae oil. But things such as replacing oil plastics with american grown bioplastics are good investments as well in my opinion.

This is precisely why the Democrats are going to have trouble in the future. With the cost of generating electricity being expensive and rising, this is pie in the sky stuff. Not worthless by any means. But we need oil resources today to drive and grow our economy. This is not an overnight process. The cost, current strain, current supply, and demand for oil is another reason why the economy is struggling. The highly touted "green jobs" vision just ain't happening in the now. Nor is it coming in the near term.

And BTW, 15 years ago, the "it takes 10 years to bring it online" argument was used. We shouldn't have listened to liberals. Had we not, we would have another stream of oil resources, and the supply wouldn't be as strained as it is. In reality, Oil, nuclear, coal, and natural gas aren't going anywhere for awhile. Believe what you want. It won't help the Democrats in anyway to continue to keep the American people from resources it has, needs, and can develop and use on it's own to get the economy growing. Developing alternatives is nice, but that alone is going to hurt the Democrats as energy gets ever more expensive to produce in the future if they continue down this road of alternatives as the primacy to the detriment of needed resources now.

[Zachstar]

People didn't want to drill for more oil then and they don't want to now. Otherwise Obama would never have won. People just want to continue driving their SUVs like nothing is happening.

Again the oil companies are adapting to not getting stuff handed to them on a silver platter. Exxon reports using 3D technology to improve dilling rates and better forecasts the idea of laser drilling is progressing so on and so forth.

On top of that the US Navy is developing fusion. Pb11 style without the massive neutron production. Power positive results could come in 2 years which would scare OPEC into opening up everything they have to sell what they can before demand washes away.

OPEC is already acting very weird. They are noting how the oil prices of last year caused massive demand destruction and instead of talking like they need to raise em they are talking about how they need to increase production. They know their failure to ward off extreme prices last year cost them a great deal of support and helped trigger more movement towards efficiency.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

People didn't want to drill for more oil then and they don't want to now. Otherwise Obama would never have won. .

What the?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

What the?

Zach lives in his own dream world. He actually thinks we're not going to need "terrorist" oil in 5 years because Obama promised "green jobs". And every American will just simply go out and purchase brand new solar/wind powered hybrids en masse, probably with government rebates...and we'll all live happily ever after.

[antikristuseke]

I love the smell of strawmen in the morning.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Zach lives in his own dream world. He actually thinks we're not going to need "terrorist" oil in 5 years because Obama promised "green jobs". And every American will just simply go out and purchase brand new solar/wind powered hybrids en masse, probably with government rebates...and we'll all live happily ever after.

You mean this was a lie?

[CaptainHaplo]

Back to the original subject.

Good for Al Gore for making a wise investment.

Good for Al Gore for supporting a firm that does things while looking to conserve precious resources.

Bad for Al Gore to lecture everyone on global warming and carbon while flying on a private jet dang near everywhere that pollutes so much.

Bad for Al Gore to create a "Carbon trading company" that does nothing but offer to sell you "carbon credits" so you feel better about driving your SUV.

There is no doubt he has some business acumen, as well as salesmanship, which he uses his political threads to assist with.

The problem is when he says one thing, does the other, consistently "stretches" the facts to support his erroneous thinking, applies a double standard to himself and other elites compared to the rest of society, and unethically creates the "environmentalists" version of scientology - aka - "carbon credits".

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Back to the original subject.

Good for Al Gore for making a wise investment.

Good for Al Gore for supporting a firm that does things while looking to conserve precious resources.

Bad for Al Gore to lecture everyone on global warming and carbon while flying on a private jet dang near everywhere that pollutes so much.

Bad for Al Gore to create a "Carbon trading company" that does nothing but offer to sell you "carbon credits" so you feel better about driving your SUV.

There is no doubt he has some business acumen, as well as salesmanship, which he uses his political threads to assist with.

The problem is when he says one thing, does the other, consistently "stretches" the facts to support his erroneous thinking, applies a double standard to himself and other elites compared to the rest of society, and unethically creates the "environmentalists" version of scientology - aka - "carbon credits".

Amen Brother!