What about Jürgen Oesten?

mookiemookie · 10-21-09, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Just had to say this: I have a hand signed autographed picture & U-Boat print (multiple) of Jürgen Oesten!!

As do I

rik007 · 10-21-09, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

As do I

Reece, Mookie,

Where did you get that then?

Reece · 10-22-09, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rik007

Reece, Mookie,

Where did you get that then?

Some on eBay & some just Google for, most of the quality stuff comes from the UK.

Here's are some:
http://www.subart.net/
http://www.pzg.biz/
http://www.marineverband.at/
http://sonic.net/~books/sub.html
http://www.u-boot-archiv.de/
http://www.marhistorical.com/dosearch.php3?featured=1
http://myspace.epier.com/jerrymyr/
There are many others, can't remember them all, the last one, at the top, just do a search for example "Erich Topp"!!

rik007 · 10-22-09, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Some on eBay & some just Google for, most of the quality stuff comes from the UK.

Here's are some:
http://www.subart.net/
http://www.pzg.biz/
http://www.marineverband.at/
http://sonic.net/~books/sub.html
http://www.u-boot-archiv.de/
http://www.marhistorical.com/dosearch.php3?featured=1
http://myspace.epier.com/jerrymyr/
There are many others, can't remember them all, the last one, at the top, just do a search for example "Erich Topp"!!

Reece & Mookie,

In the UK they have the very best on War I(I) such as the Imperial War Museum and Royal Air Force Museum. Both are fantastic. Funny they still have stock of painting signed by Otto, Erich etc. A good investment in these days!

Rik

mookiemookie · 10-22-09, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rik007

Reece, Mookie,

Where did you get that then?

http://www.military-art.com/mall/default.php

Highbury · 10-22-09, 02:12 PM

It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.

Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).

mookiemookie · 10-22-09, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Highbury

It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.

Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).

A U-boat POW of the time backs up Mr Oesten as well:

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A reliable prisoner stated that he was acquainted with the Bathythermograph which bears the German nick-name of “Lachs” (literally “salmon”). As far as he knows this is never carried by U-boats on patrol but he thought that it was built into weather buoys. It might be carried by boats carrying meteorologists. If a boat remains submerged for a long time it is constantly to take samples of the water every half hour to determine the density. This might be done more frequently if the boat shows a tendency to rise or fall.

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm

Rip · 10-22-09, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Highbury

It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.

Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).

US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.

10-23-09, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rip

US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.

1: How?

2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

java`s revenge · 10-23-09, 04:45 AM

And Joergen tells that sh3 is more difficult then it was in real life..

Rip · 10-23-09, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

1: How?

2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

The layer effects all underwater acoustics.

Torplexed · 10-23-09, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

1: How?

Most American subs after 1943 were equipped with a bathythermograph. A device which could detect a thermocline.

http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/bathythermograph.html

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2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

As far as I know Japan did have sonar. Not as good as the Allied or German sets but they did possess it.

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Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII. Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).