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Old 10-20-09, 07:45 AM   #1
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Ok, I am a little stuck on the tutorials. I am doing the convoy attack tutorial but am struggling a bit. I am only getting enough time to launch torpedoes once because I head towards the convoy at slow speed (so as not to be heard) launch some torps, then have to dive down because the destroyer turns his attention to me.
My problem is not losing the destroyer because I can keep quite enoungh so that he loses my position but I then lose the convoy because at ahead slow while submerged I am only doing 3knots, but the convoy is travelling at 5knots. If I up my speed the destroyer hears me and starts looking for me again.
Can anyone give me some pointers on how to deal with this situation? Thanks in advance.

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Old 10-20-09, 08:06 AM   #2
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It is just like when you attack a convoy during a career. If you're submerged, you are too slow to keep up with the convoy. Normally, you have to wait until the escort(s) lose contact and head back to the convoy. By the time the escort leaves, the convoy is far away.
You need to surface and work your way ahead of the convoy to attack again. This is time consuming, takes patience, and some planning.

If an opportunity presents itself to take out the escort though, take it. You will still have to end around the convoy if you're sucessful on taking out the escort. The convoy will be well ahead of you by then.

Good luck and welcome aboard.

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Old 10-20-09, 08:07 AM   #3
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Welcome aboard, Gaz!

Maybe you should get closer to the convoy before attacking. I seem to remeember it worked for me after about the third try,
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Old 10-20-09, 08:25 AM   #4
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Thanks guys,

I will try to get closer before launching torpedoes, I was launching at just over 1000m, what would be a good range for firing? also If I am to surface and overtake the convoy for a second attack what sort of range do I need between me and the convoy for them not to see me?
Also one other thing, I keep finding myself using the exterior view when submerged to find out where the ships are in relation to my sub (which takes away some of the realism of the game for me), what is the best way to get their location without giving away my position as I believe the radar and hydrophone(misspelt?) give my location away, is this true?
I am finding this tutorial so much harder than the others as the ships are attacking me and dodging my shots unlike the others!

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Old 10-20-09, 08:50 AM   #5
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If I am to surface and overtake the convoy for a second attack what sort of range do I need between me and the convoy for them not to see me?
If you look on your map, any time a vessel shows up, there are dashed circles around the ship when you click on it. These show the detection ranges. The big circle is the visual range. (The circle with the piece of pie missing is the ASDIC detection range) These ranges are in ideal conditions.

I usually end around at about 8-10km, depending on conditions.

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what is the best way to get their location without giving away my position as I believe the radar and hydrophone(misspelt?) give my location away, is this true?
Hydrophone is a passive sensor and won't give your position away. If you have radar or sonar(late war), the enemy can(and will) detect you.
Hydrophone can give you direction and an idea of distance but can get confusing with a lot of ships like a convoy. Visual observation will give you exact locations, but if you're deep and evading depth charges, perisope observations are not an option. You have to rely on hydrophones to get a general idea.

Nothing wrong with peeking on the surface using external camera when learning the game.

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Old 10-20-09, 08:52 AM   #6
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I am finding this tutorial so much harder than the others as the ships are attacking me and dodging my shots unlike the others!
One more thing:
Keep with it. With all the helpful people on this forum, you will have it figured out soon and be ready to terrorize the high seas soon, get bored with stock, and upgrade to one of the many "super" mods out there which will change the experience greatly.

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Old 10-20-09, 09:03 AM   #7
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Thanks for the help sharkbit, i didn't realise the ships were click able on the map! i'm off to give it another go.

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Old 10-20-09, 09:10 AM   #8
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Thanks for the help sharkbit, i didn't realise the ships were click able on the map! i'm off to give it another go.

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You're welcome.
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