Contract Of Common Sense

TDK1044 · 08-21-09, 07:53 AM

That's a deal, Neal. I'll buy it up front through subsim. I'm just "patchaphobic" now after SH3 and SH4.

I think SH5 will be fantastic once finished though.

08-21-09, 08:07 AM

I'll buy it when its ready, if that means after 2 or 3 patches then so be it.

If my stance causes UBI's sales figures to force the "end of sub sims by Ubisoft" then that's absolutely no skin of my nose.

If you, in this forum, believe my stance to be incorrect then thats cool too. If game companies expect people to beta test their products then they should charge "half now and half when its fixed" and not the full fare.

But you know, i've been around long enough to know there will always be a sub sim somewhere.

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-09, 08:16 AM

I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

JU_88 · 08-21-09, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

:rotfl:
ROFL, well maybe he is so sick of the sight and smell of food, he has somewhat lost his appetite..
Then again - after just coming out of the 1930s recession (in heavily sanctioned Germany) - I would doubt it somehow

08-21-09, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

Hah, you know why the fat guys were never accepted into submariners ? Because they would probably stuck in the hatch hole

08-21-09, 10:50 AM

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Let's celebrate what the game will undoubtedly become

No problem

, lets start with Living Crew, i want to drink a bear for that one, care to join

Brag · 08-21-09, 11:34 AM

I am happy and grateful to Ubi just for coming out with another subsim. This indicates long term commitement to the genre. This commitement makes Ubi deserve our support.

Bitching about a product that has not yet been released is simply childish.

A good subsim a la Ubi is complex enough that bugs will not show up until a large number of players get their hands on it. That is when reports and constructive critique come into play.

Ubi devs visit this forum and other sites associated with our community and they listen.

I sincerely hope that this time, Ubi will keep Neal in the loop. The GWX team, could also be of great help prior to release.

(signing on the doted line

)

Kloef · 08-21-09, 11:56 AM

I will probably buy it in the U.K online somewhere...i dont want to support the national artists rights protection here that basically takes 50% of the profits because their so called registered 'artists' are basically non-talented people that cant make money on their own,i want the profit to go to Ubisoft and it will save me money..

Even blank dvd's have an extra tax because they think everybody uses them for illigal software and music/movies..and they do:rotfl:except yours truly offcourse..

Myxale · 08-21-09, 11:56 AM

Solid Post mate!

ETR3(SS) · 08-21-09, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Ubi devs visit this forum and other sites associated with our community and they listen.

I personally have no doubt that they do. However, the problem doesn't lie with the devs. The problem lies with the bean counters. Somebody has on their sig here that "all devs need to make a good game is time." When a potentially good game gets shipped too early that will have a negative impact on the companies reputation. Look at EA for example.

Greyghost · 08-21-09, 02:08 PM

I am extremely happy that Ubi has decided to give Silent Hunter another go and really love the fact it's U-boats again. ShIII no longer works on my rig since I am running Vista. I will be purchasing this one out of the gate just as I did all previous releases. I am really looking forward to this one.

DJSatane · 08-21-09, 05:46 PM

So we supposed to just accept ubi suckage as far as products at release? Ok I will.

Now, lets hope this time around they actually fix multiplayer. Noone fixed sh3 multiplayer bugs, not developers or modders even at this time, there is huge damage server-client bug.

I hope SH5 will concentrate to have better polished multiplayer experience.

People here expect that modders will finish the game, unfortunately without source code modders cannot fix critical multiplayer bugs, this is why till this day sh3 is broken.

banjo · 08-22-09, 10:27 AM

I am happy to buy the game when released--my problem is I've not been able to purchase thru Subsim (or Ubisoft for that matter). That 2d2 site or whatever it is, will not recognize either of my email addresses (Juno and Yahoo) and will not allow my credit card. I know from posts that this happened to others also. I have no idea what the deal was (I purchase online routinely) but I hope it has changed. As a long time supporter of Subsim I'd prefer to buy here iff possible.

XLjedi · 08-22-09, 04:45 PM

On the one hand, yes; I'll buy it on release day just as I did with SH4 to show my support for the genre.

On the other hand, if it's expected (as it should by now) that the modders will have to improve and/or fix the game after a half-baked release then they better darn well provide a more modder friendly game and an SDK. If they don't then they can still have my money... but they'll also get my grief.

U-96 · 08-23-09, 07:01 PM

I for one second the call for common sense. However I lack the patience to wait so long. Not only that but such games become hard to find a few months after release.

I have learned to give UbiSoft a leap of faith, SH4 was not finished upon release but at least they did work to patch it well enough to make it a worthy sim. I do pray that they've learned the lessons of SH4 and be a little more patient with their release date in order to give a complete game, At least put together well enough for loyal Subsimmers such as us to enjoy enough to make the wait for subsequent patches very bareable.

However the need for a commercial success with SH5 cannot be denied, And I for one will pre-order via subsim and worst case scenario will shelf it until it is patched properly, I'll still have the game ready until said patch arrives. However I am quite confident that the game will be enjoyable enough until then. Let us not forget what the point of games, yes even detailed simulations, are. To have fun, If I'm able to have fun Playing SH5 then the asking price for the title will be quite justified, and any subsequent patch will be gravy from that point on.

Unlike most game companies, UbiSoft at the very least tends to listen to fans and do try to correct mistakes. The responsibility is not solely on them, It's shared by all of us to have patience, to be constructive, and most of all, to enjoy the experience. SH2 was a disappointing installment, but great efforts were made to salvage the game and make it enjoyable. The result was SH3 which blew most of us away. I believe our patience and support will reward us in kind with a lovely experience with SH5. They already have a foundation to work on from SH3 with it's large success and universal praise. Ubisoft can't claim ignorance with what the masses want. I have faith that they'll use that knowledge constructively.

Silent Hunter 5 will be fun, Even if it's not perfect upon release. That's good enough to tide me over until the patches are released.

08-21-09, 11:34 AM	#7
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I am happy and grateful to Ubi just for coming out with another subsim. This indicates long term commitement to the genre. This commitement makes Ubi deserve our support. Bitching about a product that has not yet been released is simply childish. A good subsim a la Ubi is complex enough that bugs will not show up until a large number of players get their hands on it. That is when reports and constructive critique come into play. Ubi devs visit this forum and other sites associated with our community and they listen. I sincerely hope that this time, Ubi will keep Neal in the loop. The GWX team, could also be of great help prior to release. (signing on the doted line ) __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

08-21-09, 11:56 AM	#8
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I will probably buy it in the U.K online somewhere...i dont want to support the national artists rights protection here that basically takes 50% of the profits because their so called registered 'artists' are basically non-talented people that cant make money on their own,i want the profit to go to Ubisoft and it will save me money.. Even blank dvd's have an extra tax because they think everybody uses them for illigal software and music/movies..and they do:rotfl:except yours truly offcourse.. __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

08-21-09, 11:56 AM	#9
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Solid Post mate! __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

08-21-09, 02:08 PM	#11
Greyghost Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 26 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I am extremely happy that Ubi has decided to give Silent Hunter another go and really love the fact it's U-boats again. ShIII no longer works on my rig since I am running Vista. I will be purchasing this one out of the gate just as I did all previous releases. I am really looking forward to this one. __________________

08-21-09, 05:46 PM	#12
DJSatane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So we supposed to just accept ubi suckage as far as products at release? Ok I will. Now, lets hope this time around they actually fix multiplayer. Noone fixed sh3 multiplayer bugs, not developers or modders even at this time, there is huge damage server-client bug. I hope SH5 will concentrate to have better polished multiplayer experience. People here expect that modders will finish the game, unfortunately without source code modders cannot fix critical multiplayer bugs, this is why till this day sh3 is broken. __________________ DJSatane - https://twitter.com/DJSatane

08-21-09, 07:53 AM	#1
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	That's a deal, Neal. I'll buy it up front through subsim. I'm just "patchaphobic" now after SH3 and SH4. I think SH5 will be fantastic once finished though.

08-21-09, 08:07 AM	#2
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'll buy it when its ready, if that means after 2 or 3 patches then so be it. If my stance causes UBI's sales figures to force the "end of sub sims by Ubisoft" then that's absolutely no skin of my nose. If you, in this forum, believe my stance to be incorrect then thats cool too. If game companies expect people to beta test their products then they should charge "half now and half when its fixed" and not the full fare. But you know, i've been around long enough to know there will always be a sub sim somewhere.

08-21-09, 08:16 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,281 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

08-22-09, 10:27 AM	#13
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I am happy to buy the game when released--my problem is I've not been able to purchase thru Subsim (or Ubisoft for that matter). That 2d2 site or whatever it is, will not recognize either of my email addresses (Juno and Yahoo) and will not allow my credit card. I know from posts that this happened to others also. I have no idea what the deal was (I purchase online routinely) but I hope it has changed. As a long time supporter of Subsim I'd prefer to buy here iff possible.

08-22-09, 04:45 PM	#14
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	On the one hand, yes; I'll buy it on release day just as I did with SH4 to show my support for the genre. On the other hand, if it's expected (as it should by now) that the modders will have to improve and/or fix the game after a half-baked release then they better darn well provide a more modder friendly game and an SDK. If they don't then they can still have my money... but they'll also get my grief. __________________

08-23-09, 07:01 PM	#15
U-96 Mate Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 53 Downloads: 388 Uploads: 0	I for one second the call for common sense. However I lack the patience to wait so long. Not only that but such games become hard to find a few months after release. I have learned to give UbiSoft a leap of faith, SH4 was not finished upon release but at least they did work to patch it well enough to make it a worthy sim. I do pray that they've learned the lessons of SH4 and be a little more patient with their release date in order to give a complete game, At least put together well enough for loyal Subsimmers such as us to enjoy enough to make the wait for subsequent patches very bareable. However the need for a commercial success with SH5 cannot be denied, And I for one will pre-order via subsim and worst case scenario will shelf it until it is patched properly, I'll still have the game ready until said patch arrives. However I am quite confident that the game will be enjoyable enough until then. Let us not forget what the point of games, yes even detailed simulations, are. To have fun, If I'm able to have fun Playing SH5 then the asking price for the title will be quite justified, and any subsequent patch will be gravy from that point on. Unlike most game companies, UbiSoft at the very least tends to listen to fans and do try to correct mistakes. The responsibility is not solely on them, It's shared by all of us to have patience, to be constructive, and most of all, to enjoy the experience. SH2 was a disappointing installment, but great efforts were made to salvage the game and make it enjoyable. The result was SH3 which blew most of us away. I believe our patience and support will reward us in kind with a lovely experience with SH5. They already have a foundation to work on from SH3 with it's large success and universal praise. Ubisoft can't claim ignorance with what the masses want. I have faith that they'll use that knowledge constructively. Silent Hunter 5 will be fun, Even if it's not perfect upon release. That's good enough to tide me over until the patches are released. __________________ Because this boat is barely enough for the 50 men we already have. How many would you have rescued, 1? 10? 100? -Kptlt. Willenbrock (film: Das Boot)