Sea Shepards ram Japanese whaling ship

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Two wrongs don't make a right?

Three do.

[Aramike]

And about effectiveness you might be just right but IMO they're doing good job by dirupting they hunts at least temporarily. And think deeper, if they were so ineffective Japs wouldn't start using worldwide pressure against SS as well.

That has nothing to do with effectiveness. If you owned a factory and someone damaged your walls, you'd probably not suffer and production setback, but you'd still be inclined to press charges.

Originally Posted by Aramike

That has nothing to do with effectiveness. If you owned a factory and someone damaged your walls, you'd probably not suffer and production setback, but you'd still be inclined to press charges.

Japs have a right to be angry with SS as much as they want. But this angriness will still leave them with holey nets and no whales onboard as long as SS units are around. That is effectivness.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Contact

Japs have a right to be angry with SS as much as they want. But this angriness will still leave them with holey nets and no whales onboard as long as SS units are around. That is effectivness.

Effective how? In harrassing them? Okay, who cares? That isn't going to save a single whale.

Even Greenpeace calls the moron that runs things for SS a violent extremist.

All these idiots are doing is making many people who would otherwise agree with their cause sympathetic to the Japanese.

[Hans Schultz]

Japanese research my socks! they are hunt whales for food plain and simple. Too bad they didn't sink the whaling ship.

Originally Posted by Aramike

Effective how? In harrassing them? Okay, who cares? That isn't going to save a single whale.

Even Greenpeace calls the moron that runs things for SS a violent extremist.

All these idiots are doing is making many people who would otherwise agree with their cause sympathetic to the Japanese.

Why are you so sure it's not going to save a single whale ? Are you concrete sceptic from birth ?

That Greenpeace is your beloved form of petition and protest way formed community to show dissagreement in useless soft way that will never give any results in whale saving.

The main problem for SS to expand is these dumb morons and idiots who are just whining about how bad SS are, always adequateing them with dangerous "terrorists" and silently expressing sympathy to Jap poachers but in doublefaced form. In public they would say they are against whaling too.

I'm off to sleep already, keep up the steam for men that works hard to save another whale life for our planet.

[Aramike]

Why are you so sure it's not going to save a single whale ? Are you concrete sceptic from birth ?

I'm a realist, not a skeptic. Any entire Japanese cultural industry isn't going to be hampered by the efforts of a few nutjobs and their ship.

That Greenpeace is your beloved form of petition and protest way formed community to show dissagreement in useless soft way that will never give any results in whale saving.

I honestly, I've read this 3 times and I have no idea what the hell you're trying to say.

But, for the record, I don't like Greenpeace either.

The main problem for SS to expand is these dumb morons and idiots who are just whining about how bad SS are, always adequateing them with dangerous "terrorists" and silently expressing sympathy to Jap poachers but in doublefaced form. In public they would say they are against whaling too.

Umm, I wouldn't be calling anyone an idiot if I were you...

I mean, it doesn't take a smart person to realize that its possible to be against something but ALSO against certain methods used by the original thing's opponents, and you don't even comprehend that.

Originally Posted by Aramike

I mean, it doesn't take a smart person to realize that its possible to be against something but ALSO against certain methods used by the original thing's opponents, and you don't even comprehend that.

As in have your cake and eat it?

Personally I wouldn't want to live in a world where people like the Sea Shepherds would be banned from trying to bring justice to a worthy cause. When it comes to the 'health' of the oceans the situation is pretty critical. Many old timers who have sailed the worlds oceans when they were young and lately say that the oceans are dead. Dead as in compared to what they used to be. It's not a question of how many species will go extinct, it's more a question of will there be any kind of ocean ecosystem as it once was. And by once I mean as recently as ~50 years ago.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

As in have your cake and eat it?

I don't think it's having your cake and eating it too, really. It's the same principle as someone being against abortion but also against killing abortion doctors, as someone else brought up.

Personally I wouldn't want to live in a world where people like the Sea Shepherds would be banned from trying to bring justice to a worthy cause. When it comes to the 'health' of the oceans the situation is pretty critical. Many old timers who have sailed the worlds oceans when they were young and lately say that the oceans are dead. Dead as in compared to what they used to be. It's not a question of how many species will go extinct, it's more a question of will there be any kind of ocean ecosystem as it once was. And by once I mean as recently as ~50 years ago.

I don't disagree that there needs to be steps taken to preserve the ecological balance of the oceans. However, a vigilante group ramming ships does nothing to that end. Instead, as I said earlier the are doing nothing more but casting a shadow over the real problem and breeding sympathies for their opponents.

[Task Force]

These whale people are stupid.... putting people in a dangerous situation, and sinking ships... What do they think happens when a ship sinks... all the oil, and s*** that was in it gets out and gets into the water...

These people remind me of peta in the way they are extremists... they take something which they could handel by calling the athurotys if the people are doing illegal stuff.

yes, its rong to kill wales, and its rong to do illigal thing... but these people take it to an extremes...

my 2 cents on this...

[August]

Originally Posted by Contact

If Japs would...

so ineffective Japs wouldn't......

That term is a disparaging racial slur so please stop using it immediately. The proper name is Japanese.

Again, I'll wait until they will be 'barred from harbours' and how exactly that will stop them.

Know much about ships do you ?

Interesting you should bring up PETA because both them and the Shepherds are from the States. If one should critizise the SS for something then a good point would be to point out that they are based in the US and mainly carry out operations against non-US targets making then an entity that furthers US intrests around the world against it's competitors.

Wow , that makes sense
So you support violent idiots and hate the US, you really are putting up a good arguement here.

But this angriness will still leave them with holey nets and no whales onboard as long as SS units are around. That is effectivness.

Ah effectiveness , possibly a decent arguement ....well a decent arguement if the Japanese whalers hadn't filled their legal quota of whales each time despite the attempts to stop them

Woke up, having a coffee, reading useless anti SS comments and making silly face expressions.

If this is a war for whales, all means of fight becomes justifiable.

Woke up, having a coffee, reading useless anti SS comments and making silly face expressions.

Well if the anti seashepherd comments are useless why not have some from themselves just to see how crazy these idiots are .
Lets run through a couple just to see how much you agree with these "noble" people and their cause .
All fishing must be banned
All cars , aircraft and ships must be banned apart form solar powered Zeppelins and sailingships
Schools must be banned
Everyone must beome a vegetarian or even better a vegan
All cities must go.
No town should have more than 20,000 inhabitants and must be isolated from all other towns.
Five out of every six people on the planet have to be removed.
Only people who agree with these views should be allowed to breed.

So what do you think , good decent people fighting for a just cause?
Or howling mad violent extremists with a lunatic agenda?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well if the anti seashepherd comments are useless why not have some from themselves just to see how crazy these idiots are .
Lets run through a couple just to see how much you agree with these "noble" people and their cause .
All fishing must be banned
All cars , aircraft and ships must be banned apart form solar powered Zeppelins and sailingships
Schools must be banned
Everyone must beome a vegetarian or even better a vegan
All cities must go.
No town should have more than 20,000 inhabitants and must be isolated from all other towns.
Five out of every six people on the planet have to be removed.
Only people who agree with these views should be allowed to breed.

So what do you think , good decent people fighting for a just cause?
Or howling mad violent extremists with a lunatic agenda?

You're falling over the edge. This ironic derogation of yours that you've listed has nothing to do with true SS policy against whalings.

However for these actions these poaching bastards should be dragged to court: