Police Decoy cars; most awesome thing ever?

XabbaRus · 07-26-09, 03:50 PM

Could that not be classed as entrapment. I'm sure a smart bloodsucker oops, I meant lawyer would argue that.

Zachstar · 07-26-09, 03:56 PM

No entrapment would be if they had no choice but to do the deed or if there was an obvious invitation to do the crime.

Letum · 07-26-09, 04:22 PM

In England it is only entrapment if the police provide "extraordinary
opportunity" to commit crime.

A car parked in a road is an opportunity for crime, but not entrapment.
A car parked in a road with the keys left in the door is an extraordinary
opportunity for crime, and thus entrapment.

Onkel Neal · 07-26-09, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Could that not be classed as entrapment. I'm sure a smart bloodsucker oops, I meant lawyer would argue that.

Yeah, I'm sure some will call it entrapment.

I would not agree. A decoy car or a lorry with the doors open, not anyone's business but the owner's. If that's entrapment, life is one big entrapment.

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Originally Posted by Letum

A car parked in a road with the keys left in the door is an extraordinary
opportunity for crime, and thus entrapment.

Lol, I don't agree with that either, maybe a car parked in a road with the keys left in the door and a sign reading "Steal me!!", ok.

Task Force · 07-26-09, 06:40 PM

HAHAHAHAHA... that second one is funny. (so is the first one.)

SteamWake · 07-26-09, 06:55 PM

The crooks reactions once they realize there trapped in the car is priceless.

Trapped rat anyone? :rotfl:

Task Force · 07-26-09, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

The crooks reactions once they realize there trapped in the car is priceless.

Trapped rat anyone? :rotfl:

More like frozer rat...:rotfl:

AVGWarhawk · 07-26-09, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, I'm sure some will call it entrapment.

I would not agree. A decoy car or a lorry with the doors open, not anyone's business but the owner's. If that's entrapment, life is one big entrapment.

Lol, I don't agree with that either, maybe a car parked in a road with the keys left in the door and a sign reading "Steal me!!", ok.

No, it is not entrapment. Liken this to an undercover woman officer in a particular part of the neighborhood that is known for prostitution. The woman officer dresses the part and walks the walk. All the John has to do is offer up some sort of compensation for sex. Yet, the woman officer has not said anything as far as offer of sex for cash. That has to left up to the John. Same with the car. It sits in the known part of the neighborhood looking like a easy target. It walks the walk. It says nothing. Car jacker breaks in and takes the car. The car jacker initiated the theft.

Monica Lewinsky · 07-26-09, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No, it is not entrapment. The woman officer dresses the part and walks the walk.The car jacker initiated the theft.

http://LearnABit.HomeServer.com/lab/Trunk-Monkey.wmv

mookiemookie · 07-26-09, 08:58 PM

Here's some from Houston. What a bunch of maroons:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=20994703001

TarJak · 07-26-09, 10:05 PM

Bloody good idea. There should be more of it. I agree with Neal. Unless you suggest to someone "Hey see that car over there? Go steal it" it shouldn't be entrapment.

If you left my keys in the door or ignition an some basum stole it, it would still be theft.

Aramike · 07-27-09, 12:39 AM

Entrapment, according to US law, does NOT apply here. Specifically:

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However, there is no entrapment where a person is ready and willing to break the law and the government agents merely provide what appears to be a favorable opportunity for the person to commit the crime.

Leaving an unlocked car somewhere does not provoke a person to take it - it merely provides what that person sees as an easy opportunity.

By posters' earlier logic, what if a cop hopped out of a squad car to chase a perp, and left the door open and the keys in the ignition? Would it be entrapment for someone to steal the squad? Of course not.

07-26-09, 03:50 PM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Could that not be classed as entrapment. I'm sure a smart bloodsucker oops, I meant lawyer would argue that. __________________

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Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	No entrapment would be if they had no choice but to do the deed or if there was an obvious invitation to do the crime. __________________

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	In England it is only entrapment if the police provide "extraordinary opportunity" to commit crime. A car parked in a road is an opportunity for crime, but not entrapment. A car parked in a road with the keys left in the door is an extraordinary opportunity for crime, and thus entrapment. __________________

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	HAHAHAHAHA... that second one is funny. (so is the first one.) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The crooks reactions once they realize there trapped in the car is priceless. Trapped rat anyone? :rotfl: __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Here's some from Houston. What a bunch of maroons: http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=20994703001 __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Bloody good idea. There should be more of it. I agree with Neal. Unless you suggest to someone "Hey see that car over there? Go steal it" it shouldn't be entrapment. If you left my keys in the door or ignition an some basum stole it, it would still be theft.