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This idea in realife would have not worked... especialy in the PTO... It would have melted like an iceberg.
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it would have taken too long, especially since by the time it was proposed WWII was almost halfway over
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still would be amazing!
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I know it took about two years to make a small version that actually worked. Great idea, get hit with a torp, just add watr and it would freeze the gap.
Also believed they mixed ice with sawdust, the blocks were actually harder than concrete. |
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"I know it took about two years to make a small version that actually worked. Great idea, get hit with a torp, just add watr and it would freeze the gap.
Also believed they mixed ice with sawdust, the blocks were actually harder than concrete." Your right,it was harder than concrete when mixed right.The guy they used to build the small one was a bunker construction specialist.And the british navy tests showed a torpedo hit would only penetrate 3 feet.They considered 40' to be enough to make it torpedo proof.50 was more than enough.Good luck trying to get through that.The main problem it had that I see was power enough to run the electric engines and the refrigeration units as well as ship power for a boat with a top speed of 10 knots and a range I think of 11,000 nm or so.Probably a major gas hog.By the time they really started to get behind testing small versions to make the big one it was way too late for it to be worth it.They probably couldn't get one in the water until mid 44 at least and that would be really rushing it.By the time testing was done it was too much money,materials, and man hours for a war that was coming to a quick end.SledgeHammer427 is more than right.By the time they could have the boat in the water by any real timetable the only country left still left fighting would have been japan.I always liked to think of the boat as a semi-historical what if, kinda like the spruce goose.It would have worked but no need. For me the fascination wasn't just the size of the boat but the project itself.This was the equivalent of a canadian/british manhattan project in scope and cost.I mean, look at the amount of men and man hours for construction.Then there is the amount of material being moved around for construction.Could you imagine what the work site would look like.And your trying to keep the thing secret the whole time!And then if you actually got one in the water?Can you imagine being the first u-boat commander or pilot having to radio that contact report in to the BDU?I can only imagine the looks the germans would be giving each other knowing that thing just left canada and is on it's way to them.Talk about shock and awe.Can you imagine which one gets to tell Hitler and what he would say?That would have been an akaward moment to say the least.Watching them loose sleep wondering how many more will there be and their engineers trying to figure out what to do about a mega carrier who's construction makes a u-boat essentially worthless against it.?The psychological effect and propaganda coup(newspaper pictures/headlines) would almost have made the cost and time worth it. ![]() "Ice, it was pointed out, was plentiful and didn't sink. Let us build large unsinkable aircraft carriers of ice and thus provide air cover for an attack on a remote and unprotected part of France. Steel limits the size of our carriers to tens of thousands of tons; with ice we can throw off our shackles and build carriers of millions of tons each." Last edited by Nameless Bob; 07-30-09 at 11:01 PM. |
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Forget taking too long! It would require such vast amounts of wood pulp that there would be almost no timber or papers available for the rest of the war effort. That said, this mod would be a good laugh.
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"what are we building? this isn't a weapon is it?....nahhhh...I mean who's crazy enough to build a warship out of ice anyways"
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You know it.They probably also didn't mention that the inventor came up with the idea while "resting" in a Mental Institution for "stress" after escaping a Nazi death camp.Or that he demonstrated the idea by shooting at ice and wounding a guy.I swear they should make a movie about this guys life using monte python.The thing that really gets me though is that you have mods for this game including submersible big battle ships,a shark with mini guns and a sam site launcher,and a 688i attack sub.... But my idea is the crazy one to try and put in the game even though Habbakuk is the one that a navy in real life was actually going to build.It's like an endless sea of comedy. ![]() |
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And here I thought all along this was some weird ship that the devs made up for the Warship Gunner series.
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