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Old 07-25-09, 01:29 AM   #16
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Default I wouldn't even try to mod the ice cannon

The ice cannon was a idea somebody had about using the spray system for hull repair to try and freeze other ships.I don't think it would have had much range at all and most likely would be next to useless but maybe they knew something they weren't telling, who knows.I've never seen any drawing for it or specs and think it was just an idea and no more.They originally thought you could use it freeze the top of an enemy ship by spraying it and hopefully jamming turret rings and freezing hatches shut ultimately causing the ship to capsize from top weight build up.And I'm thinking lightly armed ones at that.Let's face it, if you tried that thing on with a BB it would have blown you out of your shoes before you got one shot off with that thing.It seemed to me to be a complete waste of time because the whole point was using massive air cover to ensure no surface ship or plane could get close enough.Only u-boats could sneak up on it.Also the design called for 40 twin barreled cannons on it.I think the conventional guns would have been the better choice and they had much better range.I think you would have a better chance of getting the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to work than the ice cannon.And you may be right on the spelling.I have seen it spelled 2 or 3 different ways and I think there are a few different ways the ships name was spelled that I've seen too.But I think the original name was pykrete because it was named after the inventor and the man we have to thank for this madness Geoffrey Pyke.Then again, I may be wrong.

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Old 07-25-09, 12:40 PM   #17
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Well, a magnetic torpedo might have a problem. Still, from the shotgun test, an impact torpedo hit would have been devastating. And what kind of repair procedures do you use on ice?

Would have been a great sub magnet though!

i actually saw it on the history channel the other day.

funny thing is, it could still be a what-if idea today except engine heat and jet exhaust would melt the flight decks and hangers.

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Old 07-25-09, 08:07 PM   #18
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i actually saw it on the history channel the other day.

funny thing is, it could still be a what-if idea today except engine heat and jet exhaust would melt the flight decks and hangers.
Cool.Haven't seen the whole special myself yet.They could definitely build it today and I sometimes wonder if the reason you can't seem to find much technical data on the boat is for that reason.I've never been able to find out much specs on things like damage repair procedure plans,the ice gun designs,how the refrigeration system was setup,electrical power demands/wiring,ect. As far As heat goes With today's modern materials they definitely could find a way to deal with jet exhaust.The original plan called for surface coatings(tar and other materials I think) to be on the boat but mostly on top to keep sunlight off,to insulate the ice,and for traction for the planes and crew.I you noticed in the film of the small versions construction there were men painting black material on the outside ice in areas with brushes.You would not want planes landing on bare ice in pitching seas in the dark with cross winds.Also I think the plan was to mount all the diesel engines above decks in a raised area to insulate it from the ship as well as running the waste heat side of the refrigeration to crew compartments above decks.Since everything below decks had to stay cold the ship had the electric motors outside the hull and motors above.Like a large scale fleet boat kind of.It would have been hard on the crew.Half the time in a warm bunk and half the time in a meat locker.
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Old 07-25-09, 08:15 PM   #19
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it would have taken too long, especially since by the time it was proposed WWII was almost halfway over

Forget taking too long!
It would require such vast amounts of wood pulp that there would be
almost no timber or papers available for the rest of the war effort.

That said, this mod would be a good laugh.
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Old 07-25-09, 09:40 PM   #20
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Forget taking too long!
It would require such vast amounts of wood pulp that there would be
almost no timber or papers available for the rest of the war effort.

That said, this mod would be a good laugh.
I give you an even bigger laugh.They used a pacifist menonite group to build the small prototype of a 2,000,000 ton frozen floating death star, and they didn't know what it was for the whole time.

You can't make this stuff up.
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Old 07-30-09, 11:54 AM   #21
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I give you an even bigger laugh.They used a pacifist menonite group to build the small prototype of a 2,000,000 ton frozen floating death star, and they didn't know what it was for the whole time.

You can't make this stuff up.
they were prolly like

"what are we building? this isn't a weapon is it?....nahhhh...I mean who's crazy enough to build a warship out of ice anyways"
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Old 08-14-09, 07:26 PM   #22
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they were prolly like

"what are we building? this isn't a weapon is it?....nahhhh...I mean who's crazy enough to build a warship out of ice anyways"

You know it.They probably also didn't mention that the inventor came up with the idea while "resting" in a Mental Institution for "stress" after escaping a Nazi death camp.Or that he demonstrated the idea by shooting at ice and wounding a guy.I swear they should make a movie about this guys life using monte python.The thing that really gets me though is that you have mods for this game including submersible big battle ships,a shark with mini guns and a sam site launcher,and a 688i attack sub.... But my idea is the crazy one to try and put in the game even though Habbakuk is the one that a navy in real life was actually going to build.It's like an endless sea of comedy.
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Old 08-14-09, 07:37 PM   #23
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And here I thought all along this was some weird ship that the devs made up for the Warship Gunner series.
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Old 08-14-09, 11:05 PM   #24
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And here I thought all along this was some weird ship that the devs made up for the Warship Gunner series.
Never played warship gunner,but unfortunately for the world the weirdness was real.I would have done it already myself for this but I don't have the skills.Still on the learning curve and this isn't exactly a beginners project.Right now I would be lucky to pull off a sucessful sampan mod.I did always love the idea though.It just shows how weird and desperate people get when they are trying to kill each other.It's a scary war out there.

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Old 08-15-09, 08:38 AM   #25
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Yeah I know, seen some of this countries weird but true designs...
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Old 08-17-09, 12:32 AM   #26
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Yeah I know, seen some of this countries weird but true designs...

I can only imagine.Remember when the CIA had the idea of putting cameras on cats.God only knows how much that research cost.But floating ice ships,now that's crazy.
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