Some advices

Crécy · 07-18-09, 08:35 AM

Hello!

I have now evaded the warship about an hour now, I started to track a convoy and when I started to intercept it the warship noticed me. Do you have any advices for me to re-engage the convoy without getting noticed? Before, I attacked in a daylight, now I think it would be best to do a night attack. I have just learned how to fire a torpedo manually and I have bad/moderate skills to evade warships. I have only noticed one warship in that convoy and largest ships of the convoy I have seen is medium cargo. Should I leave the convoy alone and hunt lonely ships, considering that my skills are very limited?

TarJak · 07-18-09, 08:47 AM

Are you surfaced when detected or submerged?

If on the surface you should stay at least 8km-10km away from the escorts to not be seen. If it is later in the war then you may be being picked up on radar in which case you need to be much further away.

If you are submerged then you have to remain quiet to remain undected. Slow approaches are best made from in front of the convoy's so you are better off surfacing, and staying a good distance from the convoy tracking it's path and meeting it further along that path either submerged or decks awash to reduce the chances of getting spotted.

Brag · 07-18-09, 08:49 AM

Keep evading until you lose the escort. Once clear, surface run ahead of the convoy and try again--good luck, Kaleun.

TarJak · 07-18-09, 09:19 AM

In terms of evasion I go deep 200m plus, and go silent running. Personally I don't turn the boat much but as far as possible I get my profile as small as possible by getting bow or stern on to the escort.

Crécy · 07-18-09, 10:11 AM

The year is 1939. I was submerged when the escort suddenly noticed me. I don't think my boat can handle the pressure in over 200m, I'm now sitting in about 140m (I didn't even test my maximum depth, what I now deeply regret, so I don't want to risk my boat and go too deep...). Thank you for your advices! I'll tell then what happened when I have engaged them again.

Crécy · 07-18-09, 02:13 PM

Well, I engaged the convoy at night. After I moved to the periscope depth and started attacking, my sonar man announced that warship was coming fast to my dircetion. I rose my periscope and took a quick look. Yeah, merchants were searching for me by their spotlights and escort is coming fast to my direction. I evaded the warships about an hour. It was tough, I got flooding and my stern was damaged pretty bad. Finally I ran away from it (or them) and just in case I ran silently few hours to the deeper water. I failed, again...

I decided to not engage the convoy anymore.

Crécy · 07-22-09, 02:53 AM

Only three posts in a row...

I have now encountered a new convoy. I took it's course and speed and immiaditely when I turned about 2000m from convoy running silent the escorts noticed me right away. Maybe I was too close? Well, I now try to evade the escorts and move to intercept. This time I won't go home after I have sunk at least 10000 tonnages. Yes it is not much but I'm total rookie and I'm happy to sunk at least one ship.

meduza · 07-22-09, 06:47 AM

What was your speed when you were detected? I assume you were submerged?

When near the escorts don't go above ahead slow. Even if you have the silent running engaged, they'll hear you if your engines are making too much noise.

Melonfish · 07-22-09, 07:54 AM

i always try to keep my stern facing the dd (as much as poss) and stay at 2kts unless they're on a speed run over me and dropping dd's
i get as deep as poss cause you get more time to run away from those falling depth charges.

random course changes help too, keep em guessing where you are and having to twist and turn, especially if your in shallow water!

if you get the opportunity too, see if you can't get em with your stern tube!
set it slow and shallow or go for a deeper magnetic shot and sometimes you get lucky

Crécy · 07-22-09, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meduza

What was your speed when you were detected? I assume you were submerged?

I was submerged and I was going ahead standard. I'll try now get away from escorts and then attack. I'll tell you then how it went.

Excellent, I failed again. For now on I leave convoys alone so I won't embarrass kriegersmarine.

Leandros · 07-22-09, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

I was submerged and I was going ahead standard. I'll try now get away from escorts and then attack. I'll tell you then how it went.

Excellent, I failed again. For now on I leave convoys alone so I won't embarrass kriegersmarine.

If you go submerged at standard speed they (the escorts) will always detect you.....

ryanglavin · 07-22-09, 01:43 PM

lol my own question, how deep can a 100% hull integrity ixb go?

meduza · 07-22-09, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

lol my own question, how deep can a 100% hull integrity ixb go?

With SH3Commander's Randomize Crush Depth switched on, 250-270m. Without it, I don't know.

RoaldLarsen · 07-22-09, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

lol my own question, how deep can a 100% hull integrity ixb go?

About 230m, give or take.

BulSoldier · 07-22-09, 04:40 PM

Ive never gone beyond 220m with my viic.I hope i will never see need for such action

07-18-09, 08:35 AM	#1
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Some advices Hello! I have now evaded the warship about an hour now, I started to track a convoy and when I started to intercept it the warship noticed me. Do you have any advices for me to re-engage the convoy without getting noticed? Before, I attacked in a daylight, now I think it would be best to do a night attack. I have just learned how to fire a torpedo manually and I have bad/moderate skills to evade warships. I have only noticed one warship in that convoy and largest ships of the convoy I have seen is medium cargo. Should I leave the convoy alone and hunt lonely ships, considering that my skills are very limited?

07-18-09, 08:49 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Keep evading until you lose the escort. Once clear, surface run ahead of the convoy and try again--good luck, Kaleun. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-22-09, 06:47 AM	#8
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	What was your speed when you were detected? I assume you were submerged? When near the escorts don't go above ahead slow. Even if you have the silent running engaged, they'll hear you if your engines are making too much noise. __________________

07-22-09, 01:43 PM	#12
ryanglavin Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Evading that Hunter/Killer Group on my Tail Posts: 584 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	lol lol my own question, how deep can a 100% hull integrity ixb go?

07-22-09, 04:40 PM	#15
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Ive never gone beyond 220m with my viic.I hope i will never see need for such action __________________ By the hour !

07-18-09, 08:47 AM	#2
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Are you surfaced when detected or submerged? If on the surface you should stay at least 8km-10km away from the escorts to not be seen. If it is later in the war then you may be being picked up on radar in which case you need to be much further away. If you are submerged then you have to remain quiet to remain undected. Slow approaches are best made from in front of the convoy's so you are better off surfacing, and staying a good distance from the convoy tracking it's path and meeting it further along that path either submerged or decks awash to reduce the chances of getting spotted.

07-18-09, 09:19 AM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	In terms of evasion I go deep 200m plus, and go silent running. Personally I don't turn the boat much but as far as possible I get my profile as small as possible by getting bow or stern on to the escort.

07-18-09, 10:11 AM	#5
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	The year is 1939. I was submerged when the escort suddenly noticed me. I don't think my boat can handle the pressure in over 200m, I'm now sitting in about 140m (I didn't even test my maximum depth, what I now deeply regret, so I don't want to risk my boat and go too deep...). Thank you for your advices! I'll tell then what happened when I have engaged them again.

07-18-09, 02:13 PM	#6
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Well, I engaged the convoy at night. After I moved to the periscope depth and started attacking, my sonar man announced that warship was coming fast to my dircetion. I rose my periscope and took a quick look. Yeah, merchants were searching for me by their spotlights and escort is coming fast to my direction. I evaded the warships about an hour. It was tough, I got flooding and my stern was damaged pretty bad. Finally I ran away from it (or them) and just in case I ran silently few hours to the deeper water. I failed, again... I decided to not engage the convoy anymore.

07-22-09, 02:53 AM	#7
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Only three posts in a row... I have now encountered a new convoy. I took it's course and speed and immiaditely when I turned about 2000m from convoy running silent the escorts noticed me right away. Maybe I was too close? Well, I now try to evade the escorts and move to intercept. This time I won't go home after I have sunk at least 10000 tonnages. Yes it is not much but I'm total rookie and I'm happy to sunk at least one ship.

07-22-09, 07:54 AM	#9
Melonfish XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Warrington, UK Posts: 417 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	i always try to keep my stern facing the dd (as much as poss) and stay at 2kts unless they're on a speed run over me and dropping dd's i get as deep as poss cause you get more time to run away from those falling depth charges. random course changes help too, keep em guessing where you are and having to twist and turn, especially if your in shallow water! if you get the opportunity too, see if you can't get em with your stern tube! set it slow and shallow or go for a deeper magnetic shot and sometimes you get lucky