The proposed health care bill thread (merged) - Page 9

Sailor Steve · 07-17-09, 12:21 PM

Very true, especially the insurance part. My friends wife, of whom I wrote earlier, was required by law to carry a huge malpractice policy, even though she was a pathologist and engaged solely in research.

geetrue · 07-17-09, 01:11 PM

The US Congress has been trying to pass a national health care plan for over 60 years now ...

This is the worst one so far ... I say it needs more debate.

Put it on the back burner ... what is all the rush about? A campaign promise?

http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=20785&security=1601&news _iv_ctrl=1721

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Jun 22, 2009 ... La Raza (an open borders advocacy group) Demands Obama's Health Reform Plan Cover Illegal Aliens ... Congress to make every effort to ensure that health care reform reaches all ... Specific research has shown that many illegal aliens lack health insurance .... are the last opportunity to ensure that people are who they say they are ...

Behind closed doors they are considering the other citizens, the non-US citizens that is.

Want to make a bet that the number of people that the health plan covers goes up after they pass the bill, therfore making the one trillion dollars the minium number ...

Aramike · 07-17-09, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Not accurate. Actually you were warned not to be rude, troll, and spam the forums with the same political agenda too frequently.

Heh, I was starting to think the place was the Drudge Report Lite. Good call.

Takeda Shingen · 07-17-09, 01:37 PM

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Heh, I was starting to think the place was the Drudge Report Lite. Good call.

Actually, SubSim.com is not a political forum, although you will find people that treat it like one. Most of us are here because we enjoy naval combat simulations, and it's on those forums that the real beauty and purpose of the site are best seen. GT is, at best, a sideshow. It is best not to spend too much time in and around it. It'll get to you, and I've seen it mess up a lot of good people over the years.

Buddahaid · 07-17-09, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Actually, SubSim.com is not a political forum, although you will find people that treat it like one. Most of us are here because we enjoy naval combat simulations, and it's on those forums that the real beauty and purpose of the site are best seen. GT is, at best, a sideshow. It is best not to spend too much time in and around it. It'll get to you, and I've seen it mess up a lot of good people over the years.

Where's the halfway house, I need a ten step program? I don't think the active ones ignore the game forums, you just reach a point where you've gleaned what you need and the fruit falls less often.

Buddahaid

SteamWake · 07-17-09, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Where's the halfway house, I need a ten step program? I don't think the active ones ignore the game forums, you just reach a point where you've gleaned what you need and the fruit falls less often.

Buddahaid

I pop into the SH4 and other sections now and then. Usually to help noobs with the game /shrug.

I post my fair share of socio-political items but try to keep it down to a dull roar instead of a tidal wave

With the way things are going right now politically its hard to avoid the subject. Even just going to the store or something. Everyone is on edge it seems.

PeriscopeDepth · 07-17-09, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Actually, SubSim.com is not a political forum, although you will find people that treat it like one. Most of us are here because we enjoy naval combat simulations, and it's on those forums that the real beauty and purpose of the site are best seen. GT is, at best, a sideshow. It is best not to spend too much time in and around it. It'll get to you, and I've seen it mess up a lot of good people over the years.

I say you just sticky a "Partisan Sniping" thread and ban other political threads. It's what they all degenerate into anyways.

PD

Takeda Shingen · 07-17-09, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Where's the halfway house, I need a ten step program? I don't think the active ones ignore the game forums, you just reach a point where you've gleaned what you need and the fruit falls less often.

Buddahaid

I am not saying that people that view GT are warped or evil, or that people should only read game forums. I suppose that the best way to explain my view is by saying that most of the people that leave SubSim, either by storming off in a huff or being banned outright, do so because of altercations that took place on GT. If you can read it all and it is fine to you, then that is great. But be aware that the environment is potentially toxic.

Buddahaid · 07-17-09, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I am not saying that people that view GT are warped or evil, or that people should only read game forums. I suppose that the best way to explain my view is by saying that most of the people that leave SubSim, either by storming off in a huff or being banned outright, do so because of altercations that took place on GT. If you can read it all and it is fine to you, then that is great. But be aware that the environment is potentially toxic.

For the few who will not accept others views or values as just that and get mad when they can't make converts, it is toxic. Name calling wars will get nothing but trouble which is why it's pointless to argue, or debate, a subject at all if you just label someone as this or that when they don't see your point of view. Otherwise it's stimulating and can provide insights you may not have considered. Plus, a worldwide sounding board is useful.

Buddahaid

geetrue · 07-17-09, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

If you can read it all and it is fine to you, then that is great. But be aware that the environment is potentially toxic.

I actually know some of the toxic heads that no longer post here ...

Here's three of them ...

Hey guys when's the last time you seen the Avon lady
she like split a long time ago, but I loved her retorts.

You loved her what?

SteamWake · 07-17-09, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue

I actually know some of the toxic heads that no longer post here ...

Here's three of them ...

Hey guys when's the last time you seen the Avon lady
she like split a long time ago, but I loved here retorts.

You loved her what?

She was pretty good but got driven off as described above.

AVGWarhawk · 07-17-09, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Part of the reasons doctors get paid a lot of money is because they are expected to be perfect and carry massive liability insurance because they are not. It is also emotionally taxing with long hours. It's not a life I would want.

Buddahaid

Exactly what my dad did. He was an ER physician. Been there and see what it does to an individual. Everyone thinks it is George Clooney and ER on TV. Not even close. I worked a 12 hours shift with my dad. Not my cup of tea bro. All walks of life walkin or are carted in. Got to look after then no matter what. My brother once said to my dad that he does nothing at work. So my dad took him in. My brother watched an old man die on the table after a car crash. My brother never said crap to my dad again.

Sea Demon · 07-17-09, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You can insult my patriotism all you like, but I'll leave you with this: wail about it all you want, but it's going to happen. Thank goodness clear thinking people are in charge.

I wouldn't bet money on it...if I were you. These so called "clear thinking" people are doing everything possible to be thrown out on their butts in less than 2 years time. This is the most incompetent, dishonest, and corrupt government I have ever seen in DC. Even Blue Dog Democrats are getting serious cold feet about many things regarding Obama's agenda. This is definitely not over.

This horrid agenda will be finished when the good guys come back. And this time, hopefully actually do what they're elected to do.

SteamWake · 07-20-09, 12:08 PM

Not my words...

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The chairman of the Republican Party on Monday called President Barack Obama's plan to overhaul health care "socialism," accusing the president of conducting a risky experiment that will hurt the economy and force millions to drop their current coverage.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

mookiemookie · 07-20-09, 12:10 PM

Wow, the head of the opposition party doesn't like what the other guys are doing?

In other news, water is wet.

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