Fire Bug (rant)...

Highbury · 05-23-09, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Murr, stay safe my friend - may you be protected and watched over through this.

With that said - if you can, let a trusted neighbor know your going to be up and keeping watch for a few nights (so your not picked up as the arsonist), make sure your armed, and solve the problem yourself. Technically - the person is trying to burn down your home, thus your within your rights to cap them in self defence. At least, you would in in the US, don't know about Canadian law though.

Handy hint on Canadian law (as an RCMP Officer informed me after I caught someone breaking into my car in my driveway). You are not allowed to strike the person (so shooting is also out), you are allowed to restrain them and should they come to harm fighting restraint that is not your fault. In layman's terms that means you cannot punch him, but if while you are holding him he contacts the ground or a wall very hard, that is ok. Remember, you can't hit him, but you can make him hit things

bookworm_020 · 05-23-09, 11:53 PM

Fire Bugs aren't that well liked here in Australia. The last big bushfire we had here in Victoria Killed over 160 people and it's believed that half the fires were started by scum like this.

One got caught by some off duty police and firefighter here in NSW when the fires were raging in Victoria. I'm surprised that he was taken in one piece, as no one would have said anything if he had come in battered and bruised!

Murr44 · 05-24-09, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Highbury

Handy hint on Canadian law (as an RCMP Officer informed me after I caught someone breaking into my car in my driveway). You are not allowed to strike the person (so shooting is also out), you are allowed to restrain them and should they come to harm fighting restraint that is not your fault. In layman's terms that means you cannot punch him, but if while you are holding him he contacts the ground or a wall very hard, that is ok. Remember, you can't hit him, but you can make him hit things

Thanks for everyone's thoughts & that tip. I'm not about to take one of these idiots on. I don't want a criminal record because I hit one of these turds. Unfortunately they have rights too.

I just called my landlord's private security company to ask them to get rid of 2 of these buggers who are hanging around in the stairwell; I saw them just now as I was going down the hall to do my laundry. Whether the security guards turn up is 50-50 but at least I did something constructive.

SUBMAN1 · 05-24-09, 12:10 PM

Sounds like you need to do soemthing that all the other idiots handling this mess are not - Go get yourself a wireless cam and have it record only when movement is detected. Video proof is all they need to put an end to these idiots.

Some cams can be found here for cheap:
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=872

-S

CaptainHaplo · 05-24-09, 12:28 PM

How about "he was fleeing and he ran into my bullet?" :rotfl:

At the least, I was trying to restrain him and he somehow came into contact with a baseball bat that was lying on the floor, repeatedly and violently until his skull cracked and he lost consciousness?

Seriously though, best be safe - the camera idea is a good one.

bookworm_020 · 05-24-09, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I was trying to restrain him and he somehow came into contact with a baseball bat that was lying on the floor, repeatedly and violently until his skull cracked and he lost consciousness?

How about "he kept headbutting my baseball bat repeatedly until he lost consciousness and fell down the stairs breaking his neck"????

FIREWALL · 05-24-09, 08:17 PM

If as it seems affording a lawyer is out. Do you have a Legal Aid Agency to get advice about sueing the Property Owner for your loss of enjoyment of your liveing situation.

Tenant \Landlord laws in Canada and USA can't be that much different.

The Owner has a legal obligation to provide you with safe liveing conditions.

Murr44 · 05-25-09, 08:47 AM

Yes we have Legal Aid here. I've talked to several other tenants over the years about forming a tenants association so that we could present a united front when dealing with the landlord but nobody seems to want to get involved in that. They just want to bitch & whine about how awful the building has become.

I went to a tenant meeting last month & made a suggestion about getting more security guards. That got shot down immediately so I then suggested that they install more security cameras. The landlord's rep said that they would look into that (whether they do or not is anyone's guess).

SteamWake · 05-25-09, 08:50 AM

Hey that church that is handing out aid in the form of food and clothing?

Maybe they can lend you some aid as well.

05-23-09, 11:53 PM	#2
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Fire Bugs aren't that well liked here in Australia. The last big bushfire we had here in Victoria Killed over 160 people and it's believed that half the fires were started by scum like this. One got caught by some off duty police and firefighter here in NSW when the fires were raging in Victoria. I'm surprised that he was taken in one piece, as no one would have said anything if he had come in battered and bruised! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

05-24-09, 12:10 PM	#4
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sounds like you need to do soemthing that all the other idiots handling this mess are not - Go get yourself a wireless cam and have it record only when movement is detected. Video proof is all they need to put an end to these idiots. Some cams can be found here for cheap: http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=872 -S __________________

05-24-09, 12:28 PM	#5
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	How about "he was fleeing and he ran into my bullet?" :rotfl: At the least, I was trying to restrain him and he somehow came into contact with a baseball bat that was lying on the floor, repeatedly and violently until his skull cracked and he lost consciousness? Seriously though, best be safe - the camera idea is a good one. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

05-24-09, 08:17 PM	#7
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	If as it seems affording a lawyer is out. Do you have a Legal Aid Agency to get advice about sueing the Property Owner for your loss of enjoyment of your liveing situation. Tenant \Landlord laws in Canada and USA can't be that much different. The Owner has a legal obligation to provide you with safe liveing conditions. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-25-09, 08:50 AM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hey that church that is handing out aid in the form of food and clothing? Maybe they can lend you some aid as well. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

05-25-09, 08:47 AM	#8
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Yes we have Legal Aid here. I've talked to several other tenants over the years about forming a tenants association so that we could present a united front when dealing with the landlord but nobody seems to want to get involved in that. They just want to bitch & whine about how awful the building has become. I went to a tenant meeting last month & made a suggestion about getting more security guards. That got shot down immediately so I then suggested that they install more security cameras. The landlord's rep said that they would look into that (whether they do or not is anyone's guess).