Where fools rush in.. (Dem's & hearings)

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Just as suspect?

As the guys that ordered that people were to be tortured?

Waiting until your party has executive and legislative power mightn't be the most morally pure way to go about rectifying the cruel mess that was American Torture 2001-8, but it's not the same as ordering the cruelty in the first place.

But if she was on the senate committee then she did have the legislative power.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

But if she was on the senate committee then she did have the legislative power.

The chances of an investigation being successful and clear are higher under a friendly administration than under the BUsh Administration. Obama has shown a remarkable willingness to get the facts out in the open. This makes the political atmosphere easier.
basically what Max2147 posted.


I can't get my head around the feelings that certain Democratic politicians are the ones at fault, and more deserving of ire and disrespect than the people who ordered the torture in the first place.

As for those arguing whether torture saves lives or not, I hope you can see what's wrong with that question.


There have been several investigation running since this came to attention, mostly in 2003/4, but now is the first time that documents have been willingly provided by the White House or any governement agency, documents that show the tortured logic and legal stovepiping that was going on after 9/11.

Read the memos released, they're harrowing.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Obama has shown a remarkable willingness to get the facts out in the open.

That all depends on which facts your talking about.

But yes there is a willingness, hell even a compulsion to get the facts out in the open regardless of consiquences but thats another debate.